Is Chivu Still Here?

By: chris | July 2nd, 2007

chivu-346×212.jpgSo Roma has an agreement with Mauro Esposito and Cagliari and will be taking him on the next boat back to Rome. Wait. What’s that? Nope, no they didn’t. I guess it was all a bunch of crap. Hold up a second. It’s back on. Wait, nope. Just canceled again.

Come. Don’t come. I don’t really care at this point. Just make a decision. And would somebody get Massimo Cellini a muzzle until this is over.

Chivugate:

A lot has been brough up about Chivu lately (duh), so I’m going to lay out my thoughts real quick from both angles:

Chivu: I’ve always liked him. He’s damn good. But my definition of elite includes doing it when it matters. Skillwise? Elite. Performance and instinct wise? Eh. He hasn’t always shown up when it matters, and that’s where I define elite. The best shine under the biggest spotlights. I have nothing against him, but tactically from the CB position I prefer ball-winning savages - Chivu isn’t that. Just my preference, even though Juan isn’t ideal at that either. How would I prefer next year? Juan in center, Chivu out left. The contract? I don’t blame him for wanting to get paid, and it’s not as if he’s Romanista and was born into the club. He’s going to be 27. This is his one big contract to get paid for life and play for a European monster. Go get it, my friend. He chooses that over Roma, that’s fine. My issue is that he’s negotiating with a rival behind Roma’s back and hurting their leverage and then subsequently claiming Roma loyalty. Huh? Is he worth €4.5-5m per to me? No. Wonderful, take that yesterday seeing as how it’s nearly double the Roma cap and be off. Just call a spade a spade. (If it is really just a negotiating ploy and he really has no plan to move to Inter, then i take everything back - but I seriously doubt such is the case).

Roma: They aren’t exactly MENSA, so I take that into account before bashing people. I try to look at it from a relative viewpoint. Obviously if we had Einstein, Da Vinci and Hawking running the club I would be all over them. We don’t. We have someone who has no idea what she’s doing and a puppet. Fine, we have to work with what we have because none of us can change a damn thing - I’ll assume.

The contract offer? I still believe a lot relates to Philippe Mexes’ contract. How could they break the cap for Chivu and not Mexes? Should they have broken it? Yes. It’s not as though Rodrigo Taddei would see that and immediately have his agent call up and demand €3m per. Until they do they won’t be able to keep the elite talent unless they’re born and bred Romanista. But that brings up the finances. Do I know? Nope. Not a damn clue. Neither does anyone else. The reported figures don’t outline the entire situation (and as someone said, never trust Italian financial reports anyway). And it’s a lot more difficult to run a club than we all assume. I give them the benefit of the doubt. Two years ago this club went 11-12-15 and finished 8th. Spalletti was brought in after the managerial carousel and last year they went 29-9-7. Even though it was a somewhat watered-down competition, they’ve still improved in the grand scheme. The big picture is making progress. As much as I’d like to argue with a lot of things, that’s hard to discount. (Could they be better than they are right now? Absolutely. But they’ve still improved.)

Does Chivu deserve more money? Yes. Would I be sad to see him go? Mostly. Did the management fuck up? Maybe. I still think a lot of this is relative to Mexes. Yes, they should have taken care of this during the season, but we can’t change what has already happened. We also don’t truly know what went on behind the scenes. Contract negotiations are never simple in any sport. They’re vastly different than everyday business. I’m withholding judgment to see how next year plays out. Obviously Spalletti isn’t happy about losing one of his top players, but a lot of this had to do with Massimo Moratti’s underhanded contract offer. If that €4.5m figure wasn’t doing the cha-cha in the back of Chivu’s head, would he have extended his contract? It’s very possible. My main beef in this situation is with Moratti. Not Roma. However, do Rosella Sensi and Daniele Prade need to be replaced? Absolutely. The team has massive potential which is being partially squandered. Until then, it’s not as bad as everyone thinks. They have a world-class youth system and it’s not as though they’re fighting relegation or are in danger of being dissolved. Rome wasn’t built in a day (If you were standing next to me I’d let you hit me for that, but I couldn’t resist).

* - Btw, how do you think Zlatan feels that Chivu is being offered more scrilla than he? He cannot be happy whatsoever.

A small but meaningful development in terms of compensation in a possible Christian Chivu deal, rumors are stating Victor Obinna might turn down a deal with Rome in favor of joining the Viola. The reason? Cash, obviously. We shall see, but it could allow enough time for Barca to either jump in with a larger offer or drop out, enabling Real Madrid to come in and offer up big money. Also in the Madrid spectrum, it’s being said they’re offering 5m per annum to Chivu. Yup, €5 million. One would think the Club of the Century wouldn’t have to grossly overpay to get their targets, right? Because that’s way over the top. Hopefully Chivu sees that offer and forces a deal to Madrid.

The Fluffernutter:
I) Aquilaninho was named to the U-21 Team of the Tounament, and very deservedly so. He and Giorgio Chiellini were the only two Italians to make the squad. The rest of the team reads like such:

GK: Damir Kahriman (Serbia - FK Vojodina)
DF: Gianni Zuiverloon (Netherlands - Heerenveen); Chiellini (Juventus); Branislav Ivanovic (Serbia - Lokomotiv Moscow); Aleksandar Kolarov (Serbia - Lazio)
MF: Royston Drenthe (Netherlands - Feyenoord); Aquilaninho; Hedwiges Maduro (Netherlands - Ajax); Bosko Jankovic (Serbia - Palermo)
FW: Maceo Ritgers (Netherlands - NAC Breda); Leroy Lita (England - Reading).

Quality team, I’m a little surprised that Chiellini made the squad - he was good no doubt, but he was listed at CB when he’s a LB. There had to be some better CB options. I’ll take Maduro and Drenthe please and call it a day. Here’s the link to the video of the selections with player highlights. Scroll down and it’s on the right hand side, second video under ‘Today’s Top Stories.’

II) A nice quote surrounded by butterflies and cupcakes from Fiorentina’s owner Diego Della Valle:

“A big gift for Florence is about to arrive, let’s let Sports Director Pantaleo Corvino work in peace and soon there will be a big deal.”

I really am assuming this is Franco Semioli, though I wouldn’t exactly consider his purchase a “big deal.” There’s a slight chance it could be regarding Alberto Gilardino or Rafaelle Palladino, but they’re already chock full of strikers with Bojinov, Lupoli, Mutu and Pazzini. Unless Prandelli is planning on playing a 3-2-5. We should know by January.

III) If you hadn’t heard, Julien Faubert decided to sign with West Ham United in his pursuit of Champions League football, which was his reason for demanding out of Bordeaux. I guess Champions League is French for “relegation battle.”

* - If you see Spalletti, go give him a big hug - he really wanted Faubert.

IV) When I pulled up TMW yesterday there was a headline that had two nouns in it: Roma and Olivieri. For a second I thought it was regarding Ricardo Oliveira of Milan fame. I’m not joking when I say I nearly threw up. Luckily it was referring to Attilio Olivieri leaving the club after many years. Close one.

V) Legea has upped their offer another €500,000 to take the lead from Kappa - though a bidding war could be on the way. I’m going to believe that Rosella has an IQ slightly above that of a baboon and she’ll realize they would lose at least that much in shirt revenue by going with Legea, especially in the international market.

Expect Legea to be making the unis next year.

VI) Looks like Spalletti is after more Cagliari talent, this time it’s defender Michele Canini. Cellini has said he’s not for sale, so I’d suspect Roma will respect his wishes and not pursue it any further, considering their good working report. Though he also said that if Cagliari does sell, the first option will go to Rosella and Prade.

I love that Roma is forming a solid kinship with a club, I just wish it was one which produced high-quality talent on a regular basis. It’s not as though Cagliari is regularly filling up the rosters of the big clubs or stockpiling the youth national team set-up. That whole Suazo situation didn’t exactly work out in Roma’s favor either. However, I still hope Roma sends some of the youngsters on loan to Cagliari and someday in the near future a diamond comes through the Cagliari setup and is handed over to Roma due to the friendship. Good juju.

VII) When I did my summer preview(which could become not-so-embarrassing at some point) fantasies, I mentioned one person who I would love to see make a short-money move to Roma: Mathieu Chalme from Lille. Big engine, hugely versatile and serious pace - he’s one of those guys you just want on your squad when you need to plug holes. Well, it looks likes he could head to Bordeaux as Faubert’s replacement.

“It’s like rain on your wedding day
It’s a free ride when you’ve already paid
It’s the good advice that you just didn’t take.”

Don’t cha think?

VIII) About 12 minutes after I asked Jan what the situation with Roque Santa Cruz was, an interview was released saying Roma is his dream. Well. I like his potential, I like his versatility and I like his relative pricetag (€5m). He’s injury-prone, which is a major concern, but he has big talent and is the same price as Esposito. Nothing was mentioned about any return love, but it’s known in the past Roma has had contact. There could be more to this.





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  • Corey |  July 2nd, 2007 at 10:47 am

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    Alanis? Did you get your period and needed some bitch music to chill out?
    Anyways, Obina would be a good make-weight in the Chivu deal, while Esposito is confirmed in certain corners of the internet. Also, Madrids sleeze bag (I am a Madrid fan but this guy is slime) Pedja Mijatovic is how you spell it maybe has stated that Chivu is not a target because barca are invovled and they wont pay to much for him. speaking of payin to much, 20 mill for Robben there Pedja, of course Real dont pay to much for people. Ohh, and Curci was told by Spalletti that if a older, more experienced keeper arrives he will be free to go…. something i dont agree with, thats a first for Spalletti

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  • CMP |  July 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 am

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    I already booked my plane tickets… going Rome tomorrow to shoot Rosella! LEGEA??? I swear to god, Kappa is the perfect solution - EVERYONE wants Kappa!

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  • Francesco |  July 2nd, 2007 at 11:25 am

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    I thought Chiellini really shined in the U21 tournament at center-back and he’s much better there than on the left where he’s too slow to go up and down the wing. I think in the center he’s a big physical presence and that’s where he has a future with the senior Azzurri.

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  • chris g |  July 2nd, 2007 at 11:39 am

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    Chiellini was listed at LB for the entire tournament, and that’s what I saw. He deserved to be on the team, it was just strange at CB - even though he did drift centrally, it wasn’t exactly his main position.

    Madrid’s Serbian wonder, Mijatovic, is meeting with Roma in Rome right now. I wonder if they finally smartened up and let them bid. Either that or Chivu got wind of that 5m offer and forced his hand.

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  • Razvan |  July 2nd, 2007 at 12:08 pm

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    latest news: noone had got this yet, but Becali (Chivu’s agent) says “Inter, wake up, there is no time to lose. Real is really close to Chivu, everything can be decided tommorow”

    source: http://www.sport.ro/stiri/10714/Fotbal-Extern/Stranieri/Giovanni-Becali-Inter-grabeste-te-altfel-il-pierzi-pe-Chivu.html

    So, Inter is offering a bigger contract than Barca. But now the Real’s contract for Chivu, is bigger than Inter’s. Chivu’s first choise is Real at this very moment

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  • Razvan |  July 2nd, 2007 at 12:12 pm

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    PS: i pray for Chivu to Real, hoping Cicinho will come to Rome. I dream of Mancini-De Rossi-Aquilani-Cicinho in midfield.
    Does anyone know how many non-EU players is Roma allowed to have? Shall i still dream or wake up? :P

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  • chris g |  July 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 pm

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    I think there are some questions as to a couple players who will be able to get passports soon, so how many will be available is uncertain. None right at the moment as far as I know.

    But Cicinho has an Italian passport.

    Good news regarding Chivu, it needs to be wrapped up ASAP.

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  • Vlad |  July 2nd, 2007 at 1:39 pm

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    Roma’s hesitancy to close the deal for Esposito and Santa Cruz’s “I

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  • Vlad |  July 2nd, 2007 at 1:46 pm

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    what happened there? part of my comment got deleted…
    anyway, Roma’s hesitancy to close the Espo deal and Santa Cruz’s comments seemed to coincide. Roque was one of the most promising strikers a few years ago, set to explode at Bayern, ready to be raised to the level of some of the game’s biggest offensive threats. Now for less than 5 million it could be an amazing deal, assuming he regains his old form, he’s still only 25. Anyway I think we could get both Esposito and Santa Cruz…7.5 million for both is very good. We would have quite a bit of money left for Cicinho and a left back (Modesto?). What do you guys think?

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  • chris g |  July 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pm

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    I still think Cicinho comes as part of the deal. I’ve thought that all along. From a talent/financial standpoint I love Santa Cruz and Esposito. SC could play on the flanks, up top or even sub for Perrotta for 5m on big talent. I think that’s a huge bargain. The worry for both is the injury issue.

    I agree that the Espo denials have to do with another player either in negotiations or close to coming in. Whether it’s RSC I have no clue.

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  • chris g |  July 2nd, 2007 at 2:06 pm

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    Just found this. It’s complete BS - Roma won’t want Cassano back and Canna makes too much scrilla, but check this out….

    Clamorosa svolta nel caso Cristian Chivu. Il difensore rumeno, secondo quanto riporta l’edizione on line del quotidiano spagnolo Marca, avrebbe raggiunto un accordo con il direttore sportivo Pedrag Mijatovic per vestire la maglia del Real Madrid. Alla Roma andranno 15 milioni di euro più un giocatore: tra i nomi, oltre a quello già noto di Cicinho, spuntano ipotesi clamorose, riguardanti un possibile inserimento nell’affare di uno tra Antonio Cassano e Fabio Cannavaro.

    Basically says Madrid really wants Chivu bad, has his word to sign with Madrid (funny, so don’t Inter and Barca) and they’re offering up cash and Cicinho or possibly Canna or Cassano. Not happening, but still.

    And then this from my early summer preview:

    Complete BS Prediction of the Summer:

    Chivu to Real Madrid in return for 6(?) million euros plus full ownership of one Fabio Cannavaro. I’ve got to admit, after the season Canna had, I have no clue what his pricetag is, but Chivu has seven years on him so that has to be worth quite a bit.

    If this is true, I may have to quit and go out on top. 99.9% it’s not, but I can dream, right?

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  • Bashar Beiruti |  July 2nd, 2007 at 2:10 pm

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    God damn it.. The Chivu deal was supposed to be done 2 weeks ago!!! Just watch Chelsea join in the offers and delay this another 3 weeks.. I’d love to see Cicinho in Rome.. :D

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  • FJ |  July 2nd, 2007 at 2:49 pm

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    I would love it if Chelsea jumped in this. I know this would just be a fantasy, but Robben at Roma would be amazing.

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  • Marco420 |  July 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 pm

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    I just hate the fact that MARCA is saying 15M$ + Cannavaro or Cicinho

    that’s just uncool…cause i would like to believe it

    cheers again Chris aka Chris G aka Boston Chris

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  • Lorenzo |  July 2nd, 2007 at 6:19 pm

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    HAHAHA. Easy boys. If it looks too good to be true, it IS too good to be true. The way I read the offer (on the front page of Il Romanista) is that Real’s offer on the table include 16 million cash and a player between Cicinho, Canna and Cassano (apparently they are trying to clear a spot on their roster for another player whose name begins with the letter C). The key is that while the 16 mln, and these 3 players are all on the plate, NOT AT THE SAME TIME. Basically, if we want Canna, they will maybe give 6 mln in cash, with Cicinho, maybe 9 mln, etc. (those are just examples). Does that make more sense?

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  • chris g |  July 2nd, 2007 at 6:29 pm

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    Yes, it’s bullshit, but in fairness, the Spanish Marca edition said 15m plus a player, with those 3 as options. Not happening, but still.

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  • Vlad |  July 2nd, 2007 at 7:21 pm

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    Guys, guys, you’re all wrong! The offer is 16 million plus C/C/C…gosh! (IlRomanista)

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  • Vlad |  July 2nd, 2007 at 7:28 pm

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    oh that was said. my bad hehe. I think its bs tho, if anything 16m cash or 10m plus cicinho

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  • chris g |  July 2nd, 2007 at 7:32 pm

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    If anyone missed it, there’s a rumor Francesco Antonioli might be headed back.

    I’m pretty sure I blacked out after I read that because I woke up with little recollection of the last hour.

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  • george |  July 2nd, 2007 at 8:59 pm

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    i’m sure that we all want the deal to finish today and for it to be cash and cicinho. that would be great!

    mr. santa cruz says that he would love to play for roma. says he likes there style of play, aggressive and modern. i would take santa cruz, i think this guy has lots of talent and you can get him at a good price. of course he is injury prone but at a good price he’s worth the risk. he is still very young, 26 years old.

    so i say lets finish off this week with cicinho and cash from real, lets then go on and finish the esposito deal and then lets get santa cruz. next week, lets go for the next 2-3 signings. seriously though, you get santa cruz, espo, cicinho and another 2 players at the least and i’ll be happy with the offseason acquisitions. mesto, modesto, semioli, for example

    have a good day, it will be even better if chivugate ends

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  • Nolan |  July 2nd, 2007 at 9:12 pm

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    As a Barca fan I say let Madrid have Chivu. I’d rather seen us get Gabriel Milito and hope Chivu has a long, mistake ridden, injury plagued career for our dear rivals.

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  • chris g |  July 2nd, 2007 at 9:44 pm

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    What both george & Nolan said.

    Then let’s call it a summer. Bloggers need football vacations too.

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  • Razvan |  July 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 pm

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    I just hope all this rummors are true. Chivu at Real Madrid might bring some sweet players in Rome and i just hope Real’s interest is big; didnt they realized that all big names bought from Roma was disapointing for them? all ex-Roma pllayers going to real are like entering a dead-end… Cassano, Samuel, lets count Canavaro too… and most likely they end up at Inter in 2-3 years from now :)

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  • Ethan |  July 3rd, 2007 at 4:55 am

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    Tuttosport is now linking us with Vincent Candela…

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  • chris g |  July 3rd, 2007 at 1:00 pm

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    I was about to say that would be a good joke any other day when I’m not in a really bad mood, but still applaud the effort……

    Then I went to tmw and saw that you weren’t fucking kidding.

    Are they planning a 00-01 Scudetto reenactment?

    I can’t take this stuff anymore.

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