Comments on: VotD: And Another One Bites The Dust. http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html News from AS Roma Italian football team Fri, 27 Nov 2009 21:40:07 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Johonna http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76123 Johonna Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:23:38 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76123 I dont think it is such a big deal. Players at the Baptista/Buffon/Camoranesi's level are used to it. They know the drill. Besides, this way no one can claim that clubs are holding back key players from international duty. I dont think it is such a big deal.

Players at the Baptista/Buffon/Camoranesi’s level are used to it. They know the drill. Besides, this way no one can claim that clubs are holding back key players from international duty.

]]> By: alessio http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76087 alessio Thu, 09 Oct 2008 00:53:12 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76087 I really don't get the point of injured players going to national duty to get checked, to go back home. I guess that's to prevent clubs from declaring players injured to prevent them from going to national duty, but did Baptista/Buffon/Camoranesi really have to make that trip just to go home? I really don’t get the point of injured players going to national duty to get checked, to go back home. I guess that’s to prevent clubs from declaring players injured to prevent them from going to national duty, but did Baptista/Buffon/Camoranesi really have to make that trip just to go home?

]]> By: mimo http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76086 mimo Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:53:25 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76086 I dont want to get into this coach debate again. But honestly, it seems to suggest a somewhat irrational bias when people cannot acknowledge what a coach has acheived with a team. No honeymoon b/w coach-club is infinite at the top level. And I am actually talking about Ancelotti. So, he is not doing well right now. It may be just the end of his era at Milan, in case they dont do anything spectacular this year. But so what? Does that erase what he has acheived in the (recent) past? Any team would kill to have those 4-5 years of dominance. Ask Chelski, Manure, Real- who would not want to have been in their position? Yeah so Milan has money- so do several others (in fact, more so). But bottomline is that Ancelotti's team did better. We cant illogically keep discounting coaches who do well with affluent teams- the analysis should be more nuanced-tactics, inspiration, quality of opponents- everything. We cannot make an untestable hypothesis of good a coach which goes like this: Poor club: He could not achieve more because they cannot spend. Richer club: He only succeeded because they could spend. Based on that good coaches are only those who exceed expectations with an underdog team. As soon as the expectations are high, we say "the team cannot go further because the club has no money, small squad etc." I am quite tired of this, because Roma's mentality has been questionable even with almost fully fit squad. I would love to be proven wrong some time soon. I dont want to get into this coach debate again. But honestly, it seems to suggest a somewhat irrational bias when people cannot acknowledge what a coach has acheived with a team. No honeymoon b/w coach-club is infinite at the top level.
And I am actually talking about Ancelotti. So, he is not doing well right now. It may be just the end of his era at Milan, in case they dont do anything spectacular this year. But so what? Does that erase what he has acheived in the (recent) past? Any team would kill to have those 4-5 years of dominance. Ask Chelski, Manure, Real- who would not want to have been in their position? Yeah so Milan has money- so do several others (in fact, more so). But bottomline is that Ancelotti’s team did better.
We cant illogically keep discounting coaches who do well with affluent teams- the analysis should be more nuanced-tactics, inspiration, quality of opponents- everything.
We cannot make an untestable hypothesis of good a coach which goes like this:
Poor club: He could not achieve more because they cannot spend.
Richer club: He only succeeded because they could spend.

Based on that good coaches are only those who exceed expectations with an underdog team. As soon as the expectations are high, we say “the team cannot go further because the club has no money, small squad etc.”
I am quite tired of this, because Roma’s mentality has been questionable even with almost fully fit squad.
I would love to be proven wrong some time soon.

]]> By: Bren http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76085 Bren Wed, 08 Oct 2008 23:44:38 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76085 The bright side to all these injuries is more playing time for Menez, I doubt he'd be getting all this time were it not for the amazing amount of injuries and/or suspensions. So we got that going for us The bright side to all these injuries is more playing time for Menez, I doubt he’d be getting all this time were it not for the amazing amount of injuries and/or suspensions.

So we got that going for us

]]> By: Kshitiz ( from Suburban Paris) http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76084 Kshitiz ( from Suburban Paris) Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:51:49 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76084 Fester, u are really funny mate. I didnt know such crazy shit happened in Poland, I believed such shit was restricted to places like India where they have cows on the streets munching away on anything they can find. Seriously though, we never should have let Barusso go on loan, he would make one hell of a centre back Fester, u are really funny mate. I didnt know such crazy shit happened in Poland, I believed such shit was restricted to places like India where they have cows on the streets munching away on anything they can find.
Seriously though, we never should have let Barusso go on loan, he would make one hell of a centre back

]]> By: Mostafa http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76083 Mostafa Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:44:54 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76083 Thx for the motivation but you guys have 3 squads and a reserve i think it might be a better idea that we send the primaviera team Thx for the motivation
but you guys have 3 squads and a reserve
i think it might be a better idea that we send the primaviera team

]]> By: Johonna http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76082 Johonna Wed, 08 Oct 2008 22:22:17 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76082 Well, if it makes anyone feel any better, most of our squad is out in international duty - Most of them could be injured this week. It happens. Well, if it makes anyone feel any better, most of our squad is out in international duty – Most of them could be injured this week.

It happens.

]]> By: Calcium Sulfate http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76081 Calcium Sulfate Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:55:47 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76081 roma is so screwed.. with our luck de rossi and aquilani will hurt themselves this week roma is so screwed.. with our luck de rossi and aquilani will hurt themselves this week

]]> By: Fadayn http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76080 Fadayn Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:53:10 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76080 milan beat them milan beat them

]]> By: Uncle Fester (the Spamlandish Embassy in Poland) http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76079 Uncle Fester (the Spamlandish Embassy in Poland) Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:50:14 +0000 http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/votd-and-another-one-bites-the-dust.html#comment-76079 As for a wild boar, in my region there are many of those charming animals... Especially in towns surrounded by forests/ parks. You can sometimes even meet them :D My dad witnessed an awesome scene. It was in quite a big city, with a busy centre and a bit forested outskirts. The centre of the city. Noisy streets. Cars stuck in a traffic jam. People running to and fro. Then my dad notices a wild boar, strutting along the pavement majestically, oblivious to all the commotion. The boar, unconcernedly, crosses the street and disappeares in the crowd. Unluckily, he (my father, not the boar) didn't have a camera with him... As for a wild boar, in my region there are many of those charming animals… Especially in towns surrounded by forests/ parks. You can sometimes even meet them :D

My dad witnessed an awesome scene. It was in quite a big city, with a busy centre and a bit forested outskirts.
The centre of the city. Noisy streets. Cars stuck in a traffic jam. People running to and fro.

Then my dad notices a wild boar, strutting along the pavement majestically, oblivious to all the commotion. The boar, unconcernedly, crosses the street and disappeares in the crowd.

Unluckily, he (my father, not the boar) didn’t have a camera with him…

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