

Manhandled By Twelve & A Half In Genoa
By: chris | September 24th, 2008
Genoa 3 – Roma 1
They didn’t quite play poorly, but they didn’t quite play like Roma, either. Then again, it’s difficult to do so when playing against twelve and a half.
It’s become so cliche over the past year, from fans and pundits alike (sans those who bleed nerazzurri), to bemoan the lack of decent refereeing in Serie A, but it’s really become too much when highly skilled professional athletes aren’t decisive figures anymore. Too often the games are taken out of their hands. To err is human, of course, and they are certainly no more than that, but this has become far too much.
I think Spalletti said it aptly enough after the match, and it’s important to consider he’s no Ferguson or Wenger; if anything, just the opposite. In fact, ear the end of the game, just after I’d removed my pants out of despondence, I thought it could and would only get better when Spalletti showed up at the presser so freakin’ tranquillo, refusing to blame the egregious refereeing errors. Much to my delight, he concurs:
“We are not looking for excuses. However, there are some incredible mistakes going on here. They have to explain it to me, otherwise it is tough for me to understand.”
“This is a very serious and just unbelievable error. Even someone who goes to act as an assistant referee at amateur level wouldn’t make such a simple mistake.”
Will it change anything? No, though Spalletti will likely field some unpleasant phone calls from The Powers That Be tomorrow. It’s just time for something, technology perhaps, to be implemented. Until then, wait for a giornata when Vince McMahon’s theme music kicks off the festivities.
Now for the important question: what is the tonic for that which ails the Giallorossi?
Good fuckin’ luck figuring that one out.
Tabellino
GENOA (3-4-1-2): Rubinho; Biava, Ferrari, Criscito; M. Rossi, Milanetto, Juric, Modesto (34′ st Mesto); Gasbarroni (11′ st Palladino); Sculli (14′ st Olivera), Milito.
A disp.: Scarpi, Papastathopoulos, Bocchetti, Vanden Borre.
All.: Gasperini
ROMA (4-1-4-1): Doni; Cicinho, Loria, Panucci, Riise; De Rossi; Taddei (31′ st Okaka), Perrotta (33′ st Aquilani), Brighi, Menez (39′ st Montella); Vucinic.
A disp.: Artur, Mexes, Tonetto, Virga. All. Spalletti
Arbitro: Brighi di Cesena
Marcatori: 4′ pt Sculli, 28′ pt De Rossi, 16′ e 43′ st Milito
Note: espulso al 23′ st De Rossi per doppia ammonizione.
Ammoniti: Perrotta, Menez, Criscito, Cicinho, Juric, Loria, Olivera, Aquilani.
Recupero 0′ pt, 4′ st.
Again with the liveblogging, so player ratings are pointless, but a few things noticed:
• It’s games like these where you understand the hype which has surrounded Cicinho. The man’s a fullback and he’s slicing through opposing defenses like an ax through lukewarm butter. Given space he’s as talented a 1v1 attacking defender as there is, and he created numerous chances all by his lonesome today.
• Menez made a similar entrance to the one against Reggina: fashionably late. I’d forgotten he was even participating by the 20th minute, but his pace and ball skills wreaked havoc with the Genoa defense, particularly after the half, forcing them into numerous free kicks, as with Reggina. But more uplifting is the chemistry he seems to be forming with Mirko. Totti & Cassano they will never be, but a poor man’s version is something I’d never complain about.
• I was okay with Riise when under the impression he was brought in as a backup. Obviously Max is not 100%, so there’s little gripe with the lineup this game (anywhere, really), but he needs to be worked into Italian football from a bench spot, not starting every game.
• Spalletti: In no way his fault. None. The second Milito goal seemed something of a fluke, against the run of play, and I thought they reacted relatively well after the first goal, creating chances and looking good to take the league. It was the negated Panucci goal which will get the pub, but Spalletti got it 100% correct when he said Daniele’s dismissal “took the wind out of their sails”. Without those two instances, I do think a win was in the card. They weren’t wonderful, but it looked to be enough.
• Okaka’s gallop through the entire Genoa half was absolutely gorgeous. This kid is going to be some player, and if he needs another shot from the start, by all means. At this point, seeing what sticks is far from the worst of methodologies.
• De Rossi’s red is still unclear – what’s clear is that his challenge deserved no card of any sort – because he had a yellow already in his pocket. I only saw the red, others have said the same, and this will matter when it comes time to deal with his punishment.
Whatever the case, he once again showed why he is so damn integral to this entire organization. I wonder whether losing him is a greater loss than Totti? Guess we’ll find out.
• If Panucci doesn’t have a contract renewal by the the middle of October I’m going to fly to Rome and beat Rosella with his golden boots until she caves.
• My greatest worry out of all this has little to do with the game, the refereeing or anyone who lined up at the Marassi. Back in Rome there’s a feller even more hurt, angry and inspired than any of us, and the true problem is he can do something about this mess. That feller would be none other than Francesco Totti.
Though Panucci wears the band in Il Captano’s ansence, there’s no doubt Daniele carries Francesco’s Roman torch when he’s unavailable. With De Rossi looking at an unjust suspension, presumably, Francesco will want to rush back all the more. Even if De Rossi is spared a forced siesta or an appeal even delays matters (quite honestly haven’t paid attention to the timeline of appeals), it’s obvious DDR is not the problem. Totti will want to come back, force himself even, and he needs to come back at this point, but it could be too soon, which would ruin far more than the near future or even this season.
I almost hope they strap him to one of the marble pillars at his home this weekend, because I can foresee another 75th minute Totti cameo where hack at his legs rules him out of next week’s field trip to France. He’s too important to risk, yet this just feels to be the inevitable.
Now onto Atlanta, though I don’t even know what to hope for anymore. Not this, that’s for sure.
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finally cerci speaks out
http://www.ilromanista.it/?section=news&id=14333Posted from
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Take a look at my pre-season predictions (written a few days before first day of Serie) over at the Juventus page..on Roma, may I say “I called it?”
I don’t even think Loria had signed on yet, but we all know he’s rubbish. Not as good as the fiat…yet everyone was hailing the switch. Riise, Baptista, and Menez are far from “bust,” they need time to get in but Loria…a few decent seasons at Siena hardly means you’re a worthy backup.
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ferrari clearly stated that he wanted to match the wages that both juan and mexes were making and emphatically declared to be just as good. this was reitterated ina recent interview. given that matteo is delusional about his worth and abilities, there was no way he was going to strike a deal with roma. this is the same guy who flopped with everton.
ferrari was not good enough to be a starter so roma really cannot be blamed for not retaining him. loria is a stop-gap for andreolli. no-one considers him the reincarnation of nesta and i’m sure roma were not expecting to have lost both cb’s simulataneously. panucci was designated as the third cb so i have a hard time faulting loria – he’s a victim of current circumstances. also, keep in mind he was brought in because he understands his role as a bench player and will not be disruptive and demanding like matteo had been. he was brought in for cover and providing rest for the other starters in less meaningful games.
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Bashar, it makes perfect sense for Riise to throw away all those crosses. That’s how they play it in EPL, pass the ball out wide, then cross it. If you don’t trust me, see the many game demos by english, that’s how they all play it.
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where do you suggest Riise raise his game too, he was mediocre at LPool, and though he is not all the great right now his ceiling is rapidly approaching.
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Well, like I’ve said before, Loria lacks skill and speed to be a regular starter for any top-flight team. Indeed, he’s what Lamagica says at the end of his comment.
But given our situation, Loria is in there as a starter, and I at least, appreciate his tenacity and determination! As Mike said above, any guy who gets kicked, knocked, and cut in the head–and still remains in the game and plays hard–is a champ in my books.
Lets give the guy a break. No one here is or has claimed that he is the man!/great!/good!/our stopper!, etc……
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Kistajk, I defenitely agree with you on that one!
You have given us the true nature and essence of the EPL!…..Hehe!
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when is totti due back? you guys need a real boost man, and what was aquilani doing starting on the bench? he’s been your only real consistent player.
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due to injury, aquilani was questionable for that game and was a last minute inclusion to the squad. i believe that totti is being saved for bordeaux game but i doubt he’s starting. i imagine he’ll only see action if we are down in the game….so, yeah, he’ll likely be playing.
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Totti, although he may play soon (due to our line-up crisis and his desire to help), should NOT play soon! Many of us think that he should take his time to REALLY heal and come back 100%. As far as I know, if needed, he would be able to play, but with pain. Not good!
Aquilani is a little nicked up (nothing serious of course), but the main thing is that he needed some time off. up until last Tuesday, he was the Roma player with the most minutes in the pitch.
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Workout today to 10:45 on giallorossi at Trigoria. The team, on the orders of Mister Spalletti has done:
possesso palla nel quadrato ball possession in the square
tattica e schemi tactics and schemes
partita lot
Lavoro differenziato per Baptista, Pizarro, Riise, Tonetto, Aquilani e Juan.Work differently for Baptista, Pizarro, Riise, Traore, Aquilani and Juan. Solo fisioterapia per Vucinic e Cassetti. Only physiotherapy for Vucinic and drawers.
So, I do not think Vuci will be ready for Sunday…any thoughts?
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Man, this is unbelieveable! No, if Vuci is receiving physiotherapy, maybe he should not play. The game is in less than 48 hours, and I’d rather we save him for the CL game on Wednesday.
The question is, who is going to play as the striker?
This start of the campaign really sucks!
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What excuse will Chris use this weekend? These two are off the list…
1. Injuries
2. RefereeingPosted from
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i think baptista is back so he’ll likely slot in up front. also, cassetti is reportedly out for a month.
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Lamagica-where did you read or hear that Baptista will be back? And if possible, when?
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pauly, i didnt read that he was back for sure. i read that he was back training today, was called up by dunga for next week’s wc qualifiers and read that vuci is possibly out. i was just putting two and two together and, as mentioned, thought he might be forced back on the weekend given vuci’s situation.
looks like riise is also out so tonetto may be forced into action early from his planter fasciatis injury. the news gets better by the day, doesnt it?
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Thanks Lamagica. Yeah, its defenitely an ill situation!
Wow! Who out of the regular starting XI hasn’t made it to the injury list?
Lets not forget that DDR’s suspension will cost the team heavily as well……this is painful for my soul!
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well according to total italian football on fsc, this will be the line-up
Doni
Cici—Mexes—Panucci—riis
perrotta–aquilani–brighi
——–Totti———
Menez——Vucinicisn’t that just overall crazy, if fsc is right i will praise them
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finally some good news, riise injured?
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It looks like it, Fadayn.
According to romanews Riise is in doubt.INDISPONIBILI: Juan, Pizarro, Baptista, Totti e Cassetti
DIFFIDATI: /
SQUALIFICATI: De Rossi
IN DUBBIO: Riise
PROBABILE FORMAZIONE: Doni; Cicinho, Mexes, Panucci, Tonetto; Brighi, Aquilani; Taddei, Perrotta, Menez; Vucinic.BTW, Google Translator has a very weird sense of humour
“TRAINING FOR A FEW TRIGORIA UNDERWEAR IS REVISED IN JUAN, PIZARRO E JULIO BAPTISTA”
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Well, here is now the 27th of September so:
“Happy Birthday to Jesus!!!”Posted from
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Wow wow wow. We gotta get healthy quick! It’s a sad day when I’m starting to look like a viable option.
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http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=883075
Im sure this has been posted somewhere before, but I dont feel like sifting through 200 plus comments. Seedorf slams Romas signings.
I think Menez is going to be huge, I still think Riise was a good move, but as Ive said before, Im at a loss with Baptista; I just dont see how theyre going to use him consistently.
But Seedorf even admits a huge part of the problem is the lack of Totti.
Totti is such a huge part of the team and completely synonymous with the club, perhaps more so than any other player in the world, and if the first month of the season is any indication of the post-Totti world to come in a few years…yikes. I just hope he doesnt rush back b/c of the recent struggles.
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Fester, thanks for always showing us the competence of that google translator:
“TRAINING FOR A FEW TRIGORIA UNDERWEAR IS REVISED IN JUAN, PIZARRO E JULIO BAPTISTA.”
Comedy, complete comedy!…….
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ah, nice. No Riise and no Loria in the lineup.
No excuses if we don’t win..
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