Licking The Wounds

By: chris | October 26th, 2008

A recap and player ratings are pointless: more of the same. Some observations, notes, etc.

• The refereeing was abysmal in both ends, but it was decisive for Udinese, whereas for Roma it became incidental – not unlike, of course, every other 50/50 situation of the entire season. No doubt that first peno changed the shape of the game, and had the penalties which were which actually weren’t been swapped, the outcome of this game may have changed. Forcing Udinese’s opposition forward is about the greatest gift they can be given, and they grabbed those gifts off their silver platters assuredly. That said, Roma didn’t deserve this one. So…eh.

• However, that “dive” which was actually a “foul in the six yard box”? Yeah, got Mirko suspended for Samp. Because Roma’s just bustling with fully-fit bodies right now. Awesome. Big thanks, Saccani. Way to fuck up two games. (Not that Mirko’s form warrants a second fuck up – simply for guilt purposes should he drop by.)

• Credit where credit is due, Udinese took advantage of the opportunities they were handed. The penalty was an early Christmas gift for, who else, Mr. Christmas; the Pepe goal a combined blunder between Loria & Doni; and the Di Natale clinical counter was simply exploiting the lack of experience of someone who made his positional debut at halftime of a league game – against a team which murders offside traps and lives off of counters no less. Yeah, Roma & the ref offered a generous helping hand, but they also didn’t muck up their chances.

• When Roma finally gathered even a hint of confidence and composure, and stopped skying balls over the bar, Handanovic really put in a clinic on momentum control with those late game saves. I don’t doubt for a moment a second goal within the last 10+ could’ve lead to points. Di Natale had the brace, thus winning the majority of plaudits, but Samir probably deserves MOTM.

• And kudos to Pasquale Marino for starting Floro Flores over Fab Quags. FQ’s good, but AFF is a lot better than given credit for and his speed against a slow midfield and central pairing was a handful and a half. There’s a reason Marino’s one of the top rising minds in football, and that’s evidence enough.

• They don’t miss Mancini, because Mirko has been, at least recently, providing the same contributions as Amantino last year (read: none). No, who they miss is, gasp, Giuly. A veteran injection of knowledge, pace against weary legs, and goalscoring ability off the bench late in the game. Ludovicious was, on many occasions, the perfect sub; a gamechanger. Great teams have great role players, and perhaps Menez isn’t quite ready to be that 20-minute gamechanger. I suppose we’ll have to wait until January to see who’s on the list (were he available, I’d be ready to say David Di Michele’s shirt is already being printed, but alas he’s not). Not that this is the whole, or even a large part, of the problem (ditto for the mercato as a whole), nor is it The Solution, but it’d help.

• While Menez may not be a supersub just yet, he’s gotta start against Samp, whatever the formation or tactic – and I doubt there will even be a second thought with Mirko on the pine. He drips dynamic qualities and though his execution can leave a bit to be desired at times, he creates chances others haven’t been lately. The present clearly isn’t working, why not give the future a go?

• Dreaming of a GOMR-Mexes-Juan-Tonetto back line. Christmas, perhaps?

• There was no link to the attack, something which could’ve been avoided in the first half with a fully fit Pizarro or Aquilani. Brighi & Perrotta do a lot of things, but their technical qualities aren’t exactly top drawer. Second half was an improvement, no great shock why. Even the smallest of fractures can be magnified under the right circumstances, and this was certainly one of those occasions.

• DDR had a really tough game, and I think it was the Gamberini-inspired fauxhawk. As good an explanation as any.

• Love Brighi, does a lot of things, but his passing isn’t even in the same galaxy with either David or Alberto. His defensive contributions are lessened when going up against a team that loves the over-the-top counter, too. Wasn’t his game to shine.

• Simone Loria has had perhaps the biggest drop off of anyone in history, because he wasn’t bad last year. Just the opposite, actually (which is how he managed to con Roma and Juve into fighting for his signature). But right now, I don’t see how he can play again in the near future. He’s good for at least a goal-gifting blunder a game, and this team can’t afford that. They’re going to have to hit the market hard for a reinforcement in the winter, unless Andreolli is deemed ready (doubtful). Til then, maybe it’s DDR on the prowl at 4th CB – this time with a bit more of a warning than being informed coming out of the tunnel at halftime.

• If things don’t turn around in the next two games – just Samp & Juve, no worries – I’m getting increasingly worried Spalletti will sacrifice himself. Which, at this point, would be just past of disastrous. There isn’t a coach available who could assist in both the short and long term the way Spalletti still can right now. I hope “switching up methods” is the only change that’s needed – along with returning bodies – and I suspect it will be. Especially if those methods spill over to the training pitch, preventing training sessions from turning into triathlons, thus lessening the injuries.

• Feel free to play amateur tactician for the rest of the week after Spal’s post-game comments suggesting some changes are in store. 4-3-3? 4-4-2? 3-5-2?

Il Tabellino

UDINESE (4-3-3): Handanovic, Ferronetti (28′ pt Motta), Coda, Domizzi, Lukovic; Inler, D’Agostino, Isla; Pepe, Di Natale (38′ Sanchez), Floro Flores (31′ st Quagliarella).
A disp.: Koprivec, Nef, Pasquale, Obodo, Quagliarella.
All.: Marino.

ROMA (4-2-3-1): Doni; Cicinho, Loria (1′ st Pizarro), Panucci, Tonetto; De Rossi; Taddei (17′ st Menez), Brighi, Perrotta, Vucinic (38′ st Montella); Totti.
A disp.: Arthur, Juan, Riise, Okaka.
All.: Spalletti.

Arbitro: Saccani.
Guardalinee: Rossomando – D’Agostini.

Reti: 10′ pt Di Natale (rig.), 22′ pt Floro Flores, 6′ st Di Natale, 29′ st Totti (rig.).
Ammoniti: Tonetto, Vucinic, Lukovic, Isla, Cicinho, Floro Flores, Totti.

Now simply hope for a repeat of Sampdoria’s trip to the Olimpico last year, when Francesco truly returned.



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  • avala |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

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    Can’t understand why folks are Interfacing :-) with k(kurac)
    j(juniorski). He obviously has blown his few brain cells from all the pink palermo donkey dicks he has been sucking incessantly and assiduously.Sic semper tyrannis of blabbering mouth.

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  • gio libertino |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

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    Pauly, right again.

    won’t respond to that idiot, but i do think Jonas’ poll is worth a shot.

    KJ:
    - wanna-be roma fan with schizoid love-hate relationship to palermo
    - guy with a sad life and no humor
    - fan of Amauri and his sexy body and dreams bout him (definitely)
    - ignorant Palermo bitch

    answer: all of the above

    if he had at least something intelligent and some substance to bring here, i wouldn’t even mind his immature comments, but i am wrong for having tried to support him in the past. he is just a spent piece of trash for all his empty insults and worthless contributer.

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  • gio libertino |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

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    is there anyone out there still thinking that sacking Spaletti would be good?

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  • Uncle Fester (By the computer I sat down and wept) |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

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    1. I would add: a person desperately craving attention.
    So shall we assume that our friendly discussion with/about our charming guests is over now?

    2. Returning to the topic of nicknames, I thought that this Old Man River is a distant echo of “The Old Man and The Sea”.

    3. What do you think about Vuci’s recents performances, bTW?

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  • avala |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

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    It’s a no brainer. What does one replace him with?
    De Canio ?

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  • avala |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

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    Vuci is the reverse of the old adage, hero in his homeland, and Mancinilike (last year) on the foreign shores of serie A. On the other hand the long ball and pedal game is not really suited for him, especially when there’s no one to pass to.

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  • alessio |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

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    Who’s going to Inter.. If they take Loria and Riise we will throw in Taddei for free.

    Sorry Bash, Inter’s only been taking useful players. (and Roma took Pizarro) Although with Mancini, the tide may be turning. If one of the three ended up there, we could say Inter is Roma’s dumping ground. Don’t bet on it.

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  • Jonas (from Flemish area in Belgium ;-) |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

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    if you say girl! to a boy,than that’s some sort of insult johonna ;)
    don’t misread me,I like girls :D lol

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  • avala |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

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    Let’s keep genderizing out of this. Plenty of good usable insult stuff in religion,politics,national origins,height,size,flatulence and so on.

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  • Pauly WalNuts (ASR) (South of Bel Air, CA. freaggin waiting for Fester's "triumphant" return!!!) |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

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    Gio: I was sure you would pick up on that!

    LET ME TRANSLATE WHAT I SAID JUTS IN CASE SOME OF YOU CAN’T READ ITALIAN:

    “WHERE IS THE LOVE FOR THIS TEAM?”
    “WHERE IS THE RESPECT FOR THIS JERSEY?”

    Seriously people! You guys are following on that little asshole’s comment like if he should be given time and attention here. Everyday he comes here and insults you guys and you still give him reasons to come back again. I don’t see anything funny about ROMA, OUR TEAM, being relegated, even in jokes.

    I LOVE this team too much for that! In addition, aside from insulting you guys, that little motherfucker insulted Chris when he recently wrote, “for all you crying bitches starting with the guy that writes this blog.”…….Fucken respect you guys show……

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  • Pauly WalNuts (ASR) (South of Bel Air, CA. freaggin waiting for Fester's "triumphant" return!!!) |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

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    Please ROMA fans, I really hope that you read my comment above. Don’t take it personal, but its really fustrating for a fanatic that loves this team too much…..

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  • Bashar |  October 27th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

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    Well Crespo is a free agent in the summer.. But he can do a lot more positive things than Riise and Loria. They have just been liabilities this season.

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  • gio libertino |  October 27th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

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    yes Fester, you are right. he has insulted far too many people here and it is time to ignore all that garbage.

    excellent question by Avala.

    Vuci has been looking like junk but he looked pretty good for Montenegro a couple of weeks back.

    i think it is a combination of whole team spirit and not being fielded with the rest of the starting team working behind him like it was in the past.

    if you look at the couple of games just previous to Inter, you can see he has been really down and even Spaletti has had to encourage and console him.

    LOW MORALE 101
    1. the general low morale that has been going around sometimes makes some people just think: “why should i even bother when we are doing so poorly, or when other players are not stepping up.” when other players are playing well, you don’t want to be the one who looks like they are not performing, plus you don’t want your teammates to think you are not putting in effort while they are busting their ass.

    TEAM FORMATION IMBALANCE

    we have been shuffling the team line-up so much that there is no consistency as to the way the ball is moved around. one day Aquilani is being played in position and getting nice balls up to the front, the next he is sick and we have Pizarro looking for the secrets of quantum physics out on the field, the next we have no midfield and are lobbing long balls, etc. as a result, Vuci has to re-think the way he is playing on game-by-game basis.

    also, in the past Vuci has worked alongside Totti or Mancini and they function as a pair, passing the ball back and forth and working it into the box. Menez has not yet stepped into that role and the two have not played enough together to gel properly.

    SOLUTION: play Menez, baptista, or hell, even Montella more – even if just in training; get healthy and field a starting team.

    then it will take some time till we get our form back and Vuci will be good.

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  • Johonna |  October 27th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

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    Pauly, I can read Italian. Unfortunately, what you posted was not Italian. In Italian, those questions would read:
    Dov’è l’amore per questa squadra?
    Dov’è il rispetto per questa maglia?

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  • Johonna |  October 27th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

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    Bashar, I think Crespo will be lucky to remain at Inter past January.

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  • Bren |  October 27th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

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    Relegation? come on its only October, theres plenty of time for them to finish in a respectable place….1st is probably a long, long, long,long shot, but I doubt they’ll be bottom three.

    We’re still in Europe, so if we can get out of the group anything can happen.

    Im sure these first few months have shown the front office reinforcements are in order….the point being, this team is far too talented to finish in the bottom three, pretty soon the law of avgs will take sway and their talent will prevail….for crying out loud, theres three world cup winners in the starting lineup, well, when healthy or not suspended..ha

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  • gio libertino |  October 27th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

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    Bren,

    that’s why Pauly and i are saying it is just absurd to give any one like KJ the time of day. it is not even worth discussing. if anyone needs to worry about relegation it might be Palermo.

    and, as far as a professional opinion on the Gila’ ban

    http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/blogs/gr18.html

    so you really do know Jack shit KJ.

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  • Uncle Fester (By the computer I sat down and wept) |  October 27th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

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    Mostafa is not there, so I’m doing his goal.com spam duties.
    Roma Fans Go Berzerk At Trigoria And Throw Eggs At Players
    Sky Sport 24 claim the Tifosi are hellbent on causing trouble and they have already thrown some eggs over the fence and towards the team bus as well as a number of players cars. The Ultras have also written graffiti on the walls.

    I hope the eggs were fresh and washed before. I don’t want Schnappi to catch Salmonellosis. With our luck, we may have some epidemia in the team.

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  • Bren |  October 27th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

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    Thats crazy, I take it those people dont have any other outside interests to occupy their time.

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  • Pauly WalNuts (ASR) (South of Bel Air, CA. freaggin waiting for Fester's "triumphant" return!!!) |  October 27th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

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    Johonna, I just came back from my classes. Thanks for the Italian correction. However, the important point is that you understood what I was trying to convey. Yes, that is ITALIAN, except not properly spelled.

    Besides, does it really matter if I cant place an apostrophy above the e? Or if I said “esta” instead of questa in the second sentence?…..I’m sure the people that can understand and read Italian got the point.

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  • Johonna |  October 27th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

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    yes, without the accent, e = and, with the accent, è= it/he/she is. Big diff.

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  • Johonna |  October 27th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

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    Wow. Eggs. Yep, cause there is no better way to motivate the team then by pelting them.

    Yikes.

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  • Bashar |  October 27th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

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    it’s not about motivating or scaring.. They are for cooking.. to give the players energy and proteins and stuff..

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  • zack |  October 27th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

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    Well, the conventional methods aren’t working…why not think outside a normal box and in one that holds eggs?

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  • Johonna |  October 27th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

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    Ok, Bashar, that made me laugh out loud. Now my assistant thinks Im nuts. Thanks. ;)

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