Hey Chivu: Go @#$% Yourself

By: chris | July 5th, 2007

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Christian Chivu to Madrid is not so imminent? After Roma reportedly agreed to €18m for Chivu from Real, we all deduced that Chivu was gone and will be playing his home game at the Bernabeu. Not so fast. Chivu, or his agents - whoever the hell is running this show, still needs to agree to a contract with Real, and it’s not such a foregone conclusion. Mediaset’s website has reported there are three reasons why Chivu may not wind up in Madrid afterall:

a) I assumed Real’s €5m per annum offer was after taxes, when it is in fact BEFORE taxes. Huge difference. We broke this down in the comment thread yesterday and it makes sense. Inter’s offer was for €4.5-5m per annum NET, which means Moratti was going to be paying roughly 9 FUCKING MILLION EUROS PER YEAR for Chivu. Unfuckingbelievable. For a guy likely to play LB? No wonder Barca got sick of his demands. Real’s offer works out to roughly €3.8m after Spanish taxes, so that’s €4.8m difference over the life of a 4 year contract (math major, trust me here), which isn’t exactly pocket change for most people.

What we do know is this: Chivu’s self-worth is nowhere near his real value. It’s becoming more and more apparent he’s just a greedy scumbag (or his agent’s worth, but isn’t your agent really just a representative of who you are?). Oh, and for what it’s worth, that €3.8m number is €200,000 above the high end of Mexes’ contract after those not so unattainable performance bonuses. You know, the games played, last name Mexes, awesome blonde highlights variety. So, if he does take that offer from Real, his goal was never to sign with Roma. Because a player who obviously thinks that highly of himself to demand that kind of money would obviously think that he could obtain such bonuses with little difficulty.

b) The death of defender’s careers once they move to Madrid from abroad. Roma fans don’t have to look too far in the history books, Walter Samuel was a disastrous flop after being dubbed one of the best defenders in the world and netting Roma a cool €25m for his sale. There are plenty of names of player’s who have not lived up to their billing in Madrid, defenders or otherwise (a few more ex-Giallorossi make that list). It could be a multitude of things, including playing on probably the stage with the most expectations in Europe. The Club of the Century’s fanbase expects nothing but title after title after title after title. Nothing but near perfection is accepted. Maybe Chivu isn’t suited for a spotlight of that magnitude. A very real concern for him.

c) Supposedly an “anonymous” Romanian buddy of his hasn’t exactly sung the praises of Bernd Schuster, widely assumed to be the next Real Madrid future ex-manager (and reportedly already calling the mercato shots). This “anonymous” Romanian buddy probably couldn’t be Cosmin Contra, could it? Who has been at Getafe with Schuster since 2005 and, from what I can tell, the only Romanian on the roster? It’s definitely not him. No………

I’ll admit, I really wanted to send Chivu out on a high note. Not yelling and screaming that he’s overrated, Roma could do better, we were better off without him, we’ve already found someone else and he’s really not that good in bed. But it’s getting more and more difficult by the day to look upon him favorably. Roma may have been at fault for not taking care of this sooner, but as of late, this is 100% Chivu burning his bridges and showing his true colors. I have no clue what’s going to happen at this point, but I would not expect hell to freeze over if Chivu played out the year with Roma and then signed with Inter on a Bosman next summer. It’s becoming very plausible that Real could do what Barca did and say “fuck off, you’re not that good” and walk, leaving Inter as the only option. I think they learned something from the Antonio Cassano situation and have made the right choice to sell immediately, but this time Roma may be fucked over by the player. They just cant win.

After growing up as a Roma and Boston Red Sox fan I fully expect to die before my 35th birthday. A man can only take so much. I’m now waiting for Juangate.

* - By the way, I’m laying down the law and imposing an embargo on all transfers involving ex-Ajax players, effective immediately. They produce some amazing talent, but this extracurricular crap is too much. If they somehow swoop in on Wesley Sneijder, Urby Emanuelson, John Heitinga or anyone else, I’m kidnapping them and holding them hostage until Roma agrees to relinquish their rights. And I want a briefcase that I can handcuff to my wrist, too. Those things are awesome. And those little Lindt white chocolate balls. One million of them. Mmmmmm.

The Shit I Really Don’t Care About Right Now But I’m Going To Tell You About It Anyway aka The News:

I) Now that it looks like Francesco Modesto may very well be headded to Udinese, I wonder if Spalletti decided he didn’t want him anymore. Here’s my take, and this is pure speculation, but I think that Spalletti decided the price Reggina (that €6m is looking true) was commanding wasn’t worth it and that maybe he could get better value elsewhere. Spalletti has probably liked Modesto for awhile, but the rumors started popping up after the Jeremy Mathieu negotiations with Toulouse didn’t pan out, with Roma rejecting Toulouse’s request for roughly €5m (which is looking cheap right now, but I’m not going there). Now that Roma feels they are about to gain some significant capital from the Chivu sale, maybe they feel they can splash a little more cash that earlier anticipated - considering Rosella’s declaration that they will be transferring that money straight to the mercato budget. So now they can go hard after a guy like Mathieu who may cost a little bit more than their original budget dictated. Spalletti is a Mathieu fan, so it’s not a completely ludicrous theory. At roughly around €6-7m for both, I’d take Mathieu over Modesto in a second. Maybe Luciano feels the same way.

The again, conspiracy theories are fun but don’t work out often. Kind of like dating a “nude model.” Unless you’re Andriy Shevchenko, of course. Bada boom.

And if you didn’t know, nude model is the polite way to say soft-core porn figurine.

II) As part of that Chivu deal, reportedly Real agreed to a friendly with the majority of the rights (€) going to Roma. Is it me, or does it seem these friendlies are kind of desperate and needy? You know, kind of like the nerdy bookworm who tutors the popular dumb jock and in return he just wants to be seen in public with the jock? Then maybe people will think he’s cool and some really skanky slut will let him in her pants. I’m pretty sure there may have been a TV show dedicated to this at one point. If not, I’m starting one. Starring A.C. Slater as the popular dumb jock and that guy Arvid from Head of the Class as the nerdy bookworm, with Paris Hilton as the skanky slut. Because she’ll fuck anything.

III) I’m going to use this as a forum to express my severe distress with the current pecking order of clubs over to the right. Somehow, I’ve been knocked down to low man on the totem pole. Below such clubs as Palermo and fucking Napoli. Now, Joe has done a supremely fantastic job of covering the newcomers (seriously, if you haven’t check it out), but they still haven’t played a fricken Serie A game in how many years? I though it could be alphabetical with Roma but AC Milan is up top, when they’re in the same situation. This is bullshit I tell you. Bullshit!

If you don’t give me what I want I’m staying here for a year and then signing with another blogging site on a Bosman next summer. Ha!

IV) Vincenzo Montella might be headed back to Sampdoria again. Wake me up when there’s some actual news.

* - The GHD may or may not be up tomorrow. I don’t really know right now. I’m having a baaaaaaad week and Chivu is NOT making it any better.

Btw, I wrote this last night between 6 hour naps and I just woke up at 2pm ET. I’m on heavy medication and not in the most pleasant of moods so if any of it’s wrong or something has changed - I just don’t give a fuck. Group hug.




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  • Inara |  July 5th, 2007 at 3:13 pm

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    Five million for Mathieu would have been a steal (as is ten for Ederson - Nice would charge Lyon at least twelve). If Roma continues to be that cheap, they might as well start recycling old kits too.

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  • chris g |  July 5th, 2007 at 3:21 pm

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    Agreed, I still think 7m for Mathieu is quality. He’s so versatile it’d be like spending 1.14m for each position. That’s pretty good, huh?

    Ederson I’ve seen will take at least 11m, even though he supposedly has a 12m buyout clause.

    Luckily, they’ve begun to splash out a little more cash this year. I don’t know how much of their losses from the turn of the millenium they’ve recouped but they’re seemingly progressing financially. I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that once Chivu is settled they will be going after one big surprise venture. I’ve got a name in the back of my head but I’m not saying anything for fear of jinxing it.

    Muddia, you may think I’m joking but expect a ridiculous email soon. I think we may need to work on an after-school special.

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  • Martha |  July 5th, 2007 at 4:24 pm

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    I’m starting to wonder how unusual Chivu is in being a complete dick in all of this. I mean, if we looked this closely at other Huge!Transfer Sagas, I can’t imagine anyone else would come out much better. Not that it makes Chivu’s asshole-ness ok or anything, but I’m guessing most people in his position would be pushing as hard as he is for as much $/£/€/Â¥ as possible.

    What would be awesome would be staying at Roma, without a raise. I would laaaaaaaugh.

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  • chris g |  July 5th, 2007 at 4:31 pm

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    I touched on it before, but I think it’s a combination of a lot of things. Especially his claims of loyalty and considering himself Romanista and then the behind-the-back dealings with Inter. I don’t think this would be as poorly looked-upon if this was Chelsea, Lyon, Barca or Juve. But Roma is different. Roma fans expect nothing but utter and complete loyalty from the players. The icons of this club give their hearts and souls to the club in return for similar affection from the fans. Guys sign less than market value contracts because of what the club symbolizes. We’re completely and utterly spoiled.

    What Chivu is doing isn’t unusual. The fact that he’s doing it with Roma is what makes it different, I believe. It’s all relative.

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  • Linda |  July 5th, 2007 at 5:43 pm

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    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=443540&cc=3436

    Oh dear, now Real are baulking at the salary Chivu wants. When Real fricking Madrid - who love paying huge salaries - thinks you’re asking for too much money, you probably are. God, his agent is a jerk.

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  • Clint |  July 5th, 2007 at 5:50 pm

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    Is it safe to say the Roma site has easily become the most commented on blog, as well as the one with the longest f’ing posts? Can’t you do a poor post from time to time so I don’t feel compelled to spend half my day reading this blog? Either that, or become a Rapids fan and help me find something to write about.

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  • chris g |  July 5th, 2007 at 6:05 pm

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    Clint, you might think I’m joking, but it doesn’t take me very long at all to do these posts. My fingers and brain just fly. I don’t know why. I’d ballpark it at a post taking the first 5-6 innings of the Sox game each night. But a lot of it has to do with covering a club in the General Hospital of football leagues, Serie A. Where every single move is drama drama drama.

    And what Linda said.

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  • Jamil Batcha |  July 5th, 2007 at 6:11 pm

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    You guys know that I’ve been a pretty staunch Chivu defender, but even I’m getting sick of this. The guy should just sign Madrid’s offer. My thinking it’s his agent’s work who’s trying to pocket some ridiculous money from Inter and Moratti. But still.

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  • chris g |  July 5th, 2007 at 6:21 pm

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    Jamil, for future reference, athletes lie through their teeth as much as they can get away with it. It’s just how things work. There are some really good ones, but like the majority of society, it’s all about me me me.

    Though I do think a lot of this is Becali.

    So IR is reporting Barca are back in and are offering 15m + Giuly? I hate Giuly, but that’s a very fair deal, especially if they could turn around and sell him back to Ligue 1 for decent money (everything really points that he just wants to go back home, that and I want him far far away from Roma - personal bias).

    Would Real just offer 15m + Cici, 4.5m per to Chivu and 2m to Becali and fucking move on already? Jeez. Wake up Pedja.

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  • Jamil Batcha |  July 5th, 2007 at 6:47 pm

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    Oh everyone lies when it comes to money and jobs. What’s interesting is that he has not said a word.

    Seriously. Real can splash the cash. They have a good working relationship with us… I’m sure it wouldn’t take much.

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  • Vlad |  July 5th, 2007 at 7:48 pm

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    Hey Chris, assuming this Chivu deal is over with before the inauguration of the Peking Olympics (I’m not getting my hopes up), who do you think Roma will get at LW? And I mean somebody who actually uses his left foot to kick balls…I don’t know why we’re linked with so many righties and no lefties. Marica’s a lefty right?

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  • chris g |  July 5th, 2007 at 7:55 pm

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    Marica’s a little expensive for Roma’s tastes according to Romanian reports, and they have been remarkably spot on in the Chvu situation, so I trust them.

    Honestly, I have a guy in the back of my head and I’m scared to say it. He’s coming close to the end of his contract and could be had relatively cheap. I may be completely wrong but that obviously sarcastic Spalletti comment about the media “knowing all Roma’s targets” as well as certain comments from said player got my mind racing. Roma was after him a long time ago and I don’t know how many people know about it - I missed it but I also wasn’t following the club this closely back then.

    Probably won’t get him, but I hope they do grab at least one left-pegger. But you’re right, all their targets are righties.

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  • Vlad |  July 5th, 2007 at 8:03 pm

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    Oh come on, are you trying to rouse our curiosity? Well, it’s working. And it’s not nice. Are you going to tell us eventually?

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  • chris g |  July 5th, 2007 at 8:14 pm

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    Don’t know if I’ll tell, I’m scared to jinx it. Chances are I’ll tell someone now and then once the mercato is over I’ll release the name, unless he signs somewhere. Cool? So I can gloat if comes true. Killing you yet? Alright, I’m done. Maybe I’ll give a hint soon….

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  • Bashar Beiruti |  July 5th, 2007 at 10:05 pm

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    I kick with my left.. If any of you can give me a shot at playing for Roma I’d bleed for the team! hehe

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  • Martha |  July 5th, 2007 at 11:05 pm

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    I get that Roma fans expect total devotion from your core players — Totti, DDR, now Mexes — but was Chivu in that group? How did he suddenly have those expectations placed on him?

    And you know that whole “will stay at all costs” thing is not reality, right? I mean, just because a guy wears a Roma kit for a few years doesn’t mean he loses every hint of self-interest. You people are so weird. (This does illuminate your extreme bitterness about Figo, though — I now understand that it’s the principle of the thing.)

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  • Dom |  July 5th, 2007 at 11:18 pm

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    As a lifelong Roma & Sox fan, and native North Ender, I really feel Roma is the Red Sox of Serie A. Always have decent prospects, management is incompetant, fans are rabidly loyal and totally demented. I have lost my sanity over the last 10 years because of these two teams.
    Forza Red Sox!
    Go Roma!
    I’m confused and dismayed.
    I never want to hear the name Chivu again until he’s wearing someone else’s kit (even Inter at this point).

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  • Razvan |  July 6th, 2007 at 1:17 am

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    im not a baseball fan, but i can feel you are right. But i want to ask you guys something :) is Inter’ management better than Roma? How about Juve ? (the new team, as the old one dint played fair, so i guess we can take them out, right?)

    Talking about Marica again, someone asked what Marica plays: i can say he is a FC or striker, but he cant play on wings with the same randament. This means he cant cross very well and i doubt he have a spot as striker in Roma. The player I want from Shahtar is Razvan Rat (he can play RB or LB) and he is quite a skilled player. I think he will jump to a bigger team this year thou is not easy to do that (Shahtak’ owner is quite rich and he will ask for a lot of money)

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  • Razvan |  July 6th, 2007 at 1:22 am

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    PS: all the best wishes to you cris, get well we need you in shape :)

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  • Harish, India |  July 6th, 2007 at 6:33 am

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    Chivu has 2 go..no matter wat..even if its Inter…Remember the Cassano episode..v cudnt sell him in the summer n the 6 months he was here, there was an element of uncertainty n becuz of tht roma had terrible on the pitch performances..the moment he left v had tht tremendous run of consecutive wins..v cannot afford sumthing like that again n expect a consecutive win run to bail us out.
    I just wish i cud hv got my hands on tht Becali son of a bitch…he wud be dead by now.

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  • chris g |  July 6th, 2007 at 7:09 am

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    Martha, actually I just think Figo’s a dirty scumbag period. Though the Barca/Real thing doesn’t help.

    Dom, glad to know someone’s in the same boat. We need to think about a support group or something here.

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  • chris g |  July 6th, 2007 at 7:13 am

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    Thanks Razvan, I’ll do my best to get better and give Chivu a swift elbow to the face.

    By the way, I’ve just been curious. How common a name is Razvan in Romania? Is it extremely rare and you’re actually Razvan Rat? (If so, kudos on your ladyfriend. She’s quite the looker)

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  • John Walker |  July 6th, 2007 at 8:56 am

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    Saw this - has Chivu on high up on the list while Totti is third! I rate Chivu highly myself and there are no words to describe Totti.
    http://www.footballingworld.com/2007/07/05/the-top-50-footballers-2/

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  • chris g |  July 6th, 2007 at 10:08 am

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    That’s a little far-fetched, in fact, I’d go as far as saying that list is a joke.

    There are easily 10-15 CB’s I’d rather have than Chivu. And that’s before all this Inter crap.

    If he really was 13, Real and Barca would’ve easily met their defender’s salary cap for him.

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  • Razvan |  July 6th, 2007 at 12:39 pm

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    Razvan is not so common but defenetlly is not unique. Im not Razvan Rat. Im too old to play soccer/football anyway so … :) it is not me who plays for Shahtar

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