A Public Apology to Fabio Quagliarella & Transfer Nuggets

By: Chris | June 7th, 2007

534056304_431fdd255b_m.jpgAfter yesterday’s performance in Lithuania, I tip my hat to Fabio Quagliarella and offer my apologies. I offer my apology not for insulting his qualities as a player, I never said he wasn’t a class player, but for saying he isn’t worth his 16m pricetag. Unfortunately, that fee has likely shot upwards over night. The two goals he scored last night (1 & 2) were nothing short of stellar. The fact that both were scored a) from distance, b) with pace and placement and c) with two different feet, proves his worth and versatility (he would make a stellar winger in the Spalletti system). Oh, and it was his first start in the Azzurri shirt. So, I’d like to take this chance to apologize to Fabio for thinking he wasn’t worth that price. He is.

As for the Roma situation, apparently the clubs haven’t spoken in a few days but that is more likely due to Chivugate (and maybe Suazo?) than a lack of interest from the Giallorossi. The new development regards Vincenzo Montella, who is supposedly coveted by Sampdoria, half-owners of Mr. Quagliarella. The Sampdoria hierarchy spoke of interest and said they would be approaching Roma regarding l’Aeroplano, and even expressed optimism despite Montella’s albatross of a contract. Apparently, for them, the cash is not a problem and they expect something could be worked out. Anybody else smell a swap deal in the offing? A Montella, loan of Curci + 5m or so to gain half of Fabio’s contract? Sampdoria have taken a liking to Curci, though who in Serie A hasn’t (and don’t say Juventus because they’re still officially in Serie B). Quagliarella has expressed desire to come to Rome and hopes that something can be worked out. Quagliarella wants to be here, we want him here. There’s nothing like people helping people. Make it happen.

* And Quag’s did the Montella l’Aeroplano (up top) celebration following the second goal. Does he know something we don’t?

Also, on the front page of il Romanista there is a poll asking if, after last night, Roma should break the bank for Quag’s. 67% said no. Not sure what that means but it’s surprising.

Other news:

a) Juan has been offered a contract by Sevilla topping the Roma offer and he’s going to look it over. Not much more to do about this one but to just let it run its course.
b) There’s something on the front page of Il Romanista regarding Bolo Zenden. I refuse to read such useless crap.
c) Aldo Spinelli regarding one Samuel Kuffour:

“Sami Kuffour was a terrible signing. He is still a good player, but motivation is crucial and he really had none with us.”

Tell us how you really feel, Aldo. The bad news: Samuel might be coming back from loan. Just maybe. The good news: He won’t be unpacking. Besiktas are in the hunt, the sooner the better. We hardly knew ye, Samuel. Now don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
d) I wasn’t able to see the game due to computer issues, but I keep reading everywhere how many scoring chances Antonio Di Natale missed. I feel somewhat justified for my completely Anti-Antonio stance. The guy is simply not that good, he’s decent at best. And no, I have nothing against him personally. He seems like a good guy, just really overrated.
e) I’m ready for The Ciprian Marica Era to begin, and rumors imply that it will be almost momentarily. There is a report regarding his wages at Shaktar Donetsk, 1.2m euros per, and that Roma have agreed to a contract with Marica. No word on whether they’re the same but something in the same range is not a problem for Roma, but I’m still waiting for the other pricetag. Considering Marica has improved substantially since his days in Romania and Shaktar paid 5m for his services, one would have to assume the price would rise. I can’t confirm this because I don’t speak Romanian, nor can I find anything on the net that translates Romanian adequately, but there is a headline from today’s paper somewhere in Romania with Marica, Roma and 8 million euros somewhere in the headline. I’m not sure of the validity yet so I’m not going to hold it in much regard. I knew Marica is a stud prospect but I didn’t realize he’s supposedly that good (that would imply that, at 21, he’s as valuable as Vincenzo Iaquinta - damn). And we all know Roma isn’t frivolous, so this is very promising.

One of the seemingly easiest ways to form a relationship with a club recently has become the Champions League group stage. A lot of the smaller clubs seem to send their younger prospects to bigger clubs they’ve played in the CL over the past few years. I know, playing against a prospect is the easiest way to judge their ability, but it seems to happen often now, especially from countries who don’t boast a “Big 5″ league. Marica is a perfect example, Roma had glowing praise for him after the two game’s against Shaktar last fall. So let’s hope Roma draws CSKA Moscow next year in the CL group stage and the Russians start sending that Brazilian talent to the Italian chapter of the Selecao. That and I can read Russian and all this Romanian is fucking killing me.
f) Thanks to Inara for the news that Julian Faubert has reportedly agreed to a Roman contract and the only holdup is fee negotiations with Bordeaux. One article says Bordeaux wants 8m euro, another say 10m. The initial report suggested 7m but if the difference is only 1-3m, and Faubert has already agreed terms, it looks to be only a matter of time before he joins the Roman ranks.
g) Roma are also interested in Michaël Chrétien and Francois Clerc, both ply their trade in Ligue 1 (also from my head French scout, Inara). I have to say, I’ve expected the Clerc rumors for some time. It’s no secret Roma are after a young RB to replace Panucci/Cassetti and Clerc is one of the more talented RB’s in Europe under-25. I don’t know much about Chrétien, other than a report stating AS Nancy wants to keep him one more year. There isn’t much depth to either rumor, so if more follows, I’ll send it your way.
h) And thanks to Bashar for pointing out that I’m a moron, I neglected to read the full il Romanista(I just realized I’ve been capitalizing the I in il, stupid American habit - apologies to the paper) article regarding Chivu and I missed 3 names Roma have are linked to. Also, thanks for giving me more Romanian to read. I thought that a couple weeks ago, that I need more Romanian websites in my life. Razvan Rat, Stefan Radu & Gabriel Sebastian Tamas are also on the Roman’s minds as of now. Rat is a Romanian left back (never seen one of those before) who also plays for Shaktar Donetsk and likes to attack on the wings and put in crosses from what I can tell. Radu is another Romanian CB/LB who I don’t know much of yet. As for Tamas, his level of competition is slightly better, he plays in La Liga for Celta Vigo but he is once again a Romanian defender. Very tall and athletic, he is supposedly a big asset on aerial balls. How any of this plays out remains to be seen. But it looks like they’d choose one of the three. More info when it comes.

How do you think Chivu feels about this? He’s about to leave and Roma are scouring the countrysides of Romania looking for a Romanian defender to slot into his place, as though he would be easily replaced by one of them. Yeah, that Chivu, just a typical Romanian defender. They grow on trees.

Oh, and Rat’s girlfriend is quite the looker. He’s my choice, because, he’s, uhhhh, good. I think. This is why they pay me the big bucks, to give you links of hot, obscure Romanian supermodels.

And could one of the ladies in the crowd tell me how the hell he pulled that one off? He looks exactly like his surname.

i) As for the Camoranesi thing, I’m not going to say anything until something more concrete appears because of this:

“The difference between the financial offer and what we are asking for is significant,” added the Argentine-born player’s representative.

If Juventus can’t/won’t pay him the money he’s asking for then what makes anyone think Roma could afford it or would be willing to shell out the bank? Ask Chivu how that one will turn out.

I’m exhausted. More later probably.





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  • Juan Carlos Sol |  June 7th, 2007 at 8:23 am

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    well, a lot of names again…

    Quagliarella has by now convinced every club in Italy to try and sign him and he may well be out of our league if we don’t act now! He has scored ton’s of long range goals and would me an amazing peace in the Spaletti formation… can’t wait till INter buy him…

    About the other romanians linked to Roma. Rat is not even near as good as Tonetto, and I don’t rate Tonetto that high. Tamas could be a good rotation player but I think Juan is much better than him, eben though Tamas can also play as a DM. and About Radu I don’t know anything exept that I have heard he is preatty good.

    If we do sign Faubert then Qualiarella will not be signed I believe and we should look to also sign Willy because we need more depth int he wing and with only 10 mill then almost 1/3 will be gone in Faubert, another 1/3 will be used in Juan and we will be left with 14-10 mill euro to buy quagliarella? I don’t facture in any money coming in for Chivu because the management might just think they did the deal of their lives after they trade him to Inter for Pizarro’s other half…

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  • Juan Carlos Sol |  June 7th, 2007 at 8:35 am

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    well, a lot of names again….

    Quagliarella has by now convinced every club in Italy to try and sign him and he may well be out of our league if we don’t act now! He has scored ton’s of long range goals and would me an amazing peace in the Spaletti formation… can’t wait till Inter buy him…

    About the other romanians linked to Roma. Rat is not even near as good as Tonetto, and I don’t rate Tonetto that high. Tamas could be a good rotation player but I think Juan is much better than him, eben though Tamas can also play as a DM. and About Radu I don’t know anything exept that I have heard he is preatty good.

    If we do sign Faubert then Qualiarella will not be signed I believe and we should look to also sign Willy because we need more depth int he wing and with only 10 mill then almost 1/3 will be gone in Faubert, another 1/3 will be used in Juan and we will be left with 14-10 mill euro to buy quagliarella? I don’t facture in any money coming in for Chivu because the management might just think they did the deal of their lives after they trade him to Inter for Pizarro’s other half…

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  • Juan Carlos Sol |  June 7th, 2007 at 8:46 am

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    well, a lot of names again…

    Quagliarella has by now convinced every club in Italy to try and sign him and he may well be out of our league if we don’t act now! He has scored ton’s of long range goals and would me an amazing peace in the Spaletti formation… can’t wait till INter buy him…

    About the other romanians linked to Roma. Rat is not even near as good as Tonetto, and I don’t rate Tonetto that high. Tamas could be a good rotation player but I think Juan is much better than him, eben though Tamas can also play as a DM. and About Radu I don’t know anything exept that I have heard he is preatty good.

    If we do sign Faubert then Qualiarella will not be signed I believe and we should look to also sign Willy because we need more depth int he wing and with only 10 mill then almost 1/3 will be gone in Faubert, another 1/3 will be used in Juan and we will be left with 14-10 mill euro to buy quagliarella? I don’t facture in any money coming in for Chivu because the management might just think they did the deal of their lives after they trade him to Inter for Pizarro’s other half….

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  • Juan Carlos Sol |  June 7th, 2007 at 8:49 am

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    well, a lot of names again…

    Quagliarella has by now convinced every club in Italy to try and sign him and he may well be out of our league if we don’t act now! He has scored ton’s of long range goals and would me an amazing peace in the Spaletti formation… can’t wait till INter buy him….

    About the other romanians linked to Roma. Rat is not even near as good as Tonetto, and I don’t rate Tonetto that high. Tamas could be a good rotation player but I think Juan is much better than him, eben though Tamas can also play as a DM. and About Radu I don’t know anything exept that I have heard he is preatty good.

    If we do sign Faubert then Qualiarella will not be signed I believe and we should look to also sign Willy because we need more depth int he wing and with only 10 mill then almost 1/3 will be gone in Faubert, another 1/3 will be used in Juan and we will be left with 14-10 mill euro to buy quagliarella? I don’t facture in any money coming in for Chivu because the management might just think they did the deal of their lives after they trade him to Inter for Pizarro’s other half….

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  • billiverdin |  June 7th, 2007 at 10:59 am

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    i said yeah take quag. But be sure we have no chanses. His price was 16 millions before that damn double you can imagine what are they now.

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  • Inara |  June 7th, 2007 at 11:17 am

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    Camo would be a great signing. He whines a lot and has a huge ego, but he’s one of those players whose age hasn’t slowed him down.

    About Romanians - they have some really good players. I’m surprised that some of the better ones have yet to be snapped up by bigger European clubs. I don’t get how Nicolae Dica and Mirel Radoi are still at Steaua when they are obviously better than the Romanian leagues.

    I did see Clerc rumors a few months back but dismissed it because it didn’t make any sense. He’d still be #2 at Roma, and a move from Lyon to Roma would be lateral. And believe it or not, but I think Reveillere is a better RB than Clerc (the Mancini incident nonwithstanding).

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  • Chris |  June 7th, 2007 at 11:32 am

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    “and a move from Lyon to Roma would be lateral”

    uh oh………

    You knew it was coming.
    :)

    I don’t mean to offend at all but there is a reason Serie A is considered a top league and Ligue 1 is not. I know Lyon performs well in the CL but they don’t exactly go up against great teams all that regularly and have to expend less during the domestic campaign than teams from England, Spain, Italy and even Germany. Feel free to hate me but I don’t think Lyon would make the CL in Serie A next year (Inter, Roma, Fiorentina, Milan & Juve depending on signings). And don’t get me wrong, I don’t think Roma would make it without Spalletti on the bench. Their talent pales in comparison but that system fits that squad perfectly. I’m optimistic but also realistic.

    Anyway, that’s fine for Clerc to be a #2. Roma needs someone for the future, not for the next two years or so, though Cicinho would be a coup.

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  • Inara |  June 7th, 2007 at 1:33 pm

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    Prepare for a long response…

    No doubt Serie A is better than Ligue 1. It’s no contest, and when a player turns down OL for Atletico Madrid….

    But I do disagree about Lyon not being able to qualify for the CL in Serie A when there are four spots allocated for it. Lyon probably can’t win the Scudetto when Juventus and Milan are in the picture, but do they have a good chance of beating Lazio, Fiorentina, Roma? Sure. Lyon is capable of challenging for a top four spot (okay, maybe the fourth spot) in any of the Big Three leagues.

    Lyon, Roma, Sevilla, Porto, Bremen - these are tier 2 clubs. Lyon’s handicap is that they play in France, but in all other respects, these clubs are pretty much equal.

    I suppose Lyon seem like a weak club because of dominating their domestic league and because of successive CL exits, but it shouldn’t be forgotten that they’ve achieved a lot in Europe too. This year’s loss to Roma was embarrassing, but it’s not indicative of Lyon’s actual level of play, just like Roma’s 7-1 defeat at the hands of United isn’t their true form.

    Other than Milan, only Lyon have managed three consecutive QF appearances, and they have played impressively against some very good teams. It’s true, they haven’t gotten to the semifinals yet, but all in good time. More money and more experience is the only cure.

    On the domestic front, I think only someone who watches Ligue 1 on a regular basis can understand that it’s not easy to play against French teams who have ten men behind the ball. What does it say about French footballing mentality when Lyon score more goals in Europe than at home? Don’t forget, Ligue 1 won’t be as one-sided next year, with both PSG and Marseille promising to spend money on some quality players this summer.

    Lyon is not better or worse than Roma in terms of quality. Roma have the advantage of playing in Serie A, but Lyon have more money. In terms of European prospects, I think Lyon are stronger only because they have been in the competition for eight consecutive years.

    Take Clerc for example. Since his status as a squad player would not change at either club, what would be the point in moving unless he wants the challenge of playing in a new league (which he doesn’t)? Roma can’t offer more money or a starting spot, and while Lyon have guaranteed CL appearances year after year and very good chances at another title, Roma can’t offer the same. Whether Roma qualifies for the CL at the end of next year remains to be seen (as I said, Serie A is harder).

    For a young talent like Clerc, he knows that shining for Lyon will lead to a big money move to a better club. He also plays under the eyes of Domenech week in and week out, and he’s just starting to establish his place in the NT. Honestly speaking, Clerc would NEVER be called up to the NT if he were a squad player outside of Lyon.

    Moving to Roma won’t benefit his career, or that of most other OL players, unless it’s a special case like Diarra. Same goes for Roma players. What’s the point in moving to Lyon?

    Unless you’re playing for the other 19 teams in Ligue 1, I stand by my statement about the move being a lateral one.

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  • Corey |  June 7th, 2007 at 1:48 pm

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    I agree with you Inara, france is seen as being a lower quality league because it has some poor teams like Valenciennes or Seda, but Italy has Messina or Ascoli who were wretched. I rate France higher the Germany, and maybe on a bias i think it has more technical quality then England by far. Look at the teams in England besides the big four. Aston Villa, Reading, Bolton, Everton, Fulham, West Ham… the list goes on, they have maybe one or two technically gifted players that are usually maginalized because a Lee Carsley who kicks the death out of people to get the ball is more safe then playing Mikel Arteta in the center instead of on the right like he did most of the year. That doesnt convince me of the league being great when other then the big 4 and Tottenham, the other teams in England would struggle in Europe. I think the same is true for Italy, it has the big four, with Fiorentina and Lazio being like Tottenham after a brief dark period. But does Empoli have a shot in the UEFA cup??? Udinese played misreably when they were in the CL two or three years ago, and, much like Auxerre being embaressing in Europe the past 7 years, or Frances number 3 team never qualifying for the group stage of the CL, it all boils down to one thing. Money. And France does not have it because of high taxes and restrictive business laws. Lyon has alot of money for France, but compared to Liverpool offering 60 mill for Etoo or Madrid offering 80 for Kaka, Lyon can not and wont do that. Also, the wages of players in France are heavily taxed, making it less attractive to players who earn alot and would loose more. (out of breath)

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  • Chris |  June 7th, 2007 at 2:12 pm

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    I was talking more in a general sense that a move to Roma from Lyon is lateral, not on a case-specific basis with Clerc. Though I do think he would get significant playing time here by a) pushing Cassetti/Panucci over to the left and Tonetto up to LW and b) filling in for Panucci at an increasing rate, as he is approaching senior citizen status. I’m not sure if Clerc could play the left side, but that would help his prospects at Rome because it’s becoming increasingly evident Spalletti doesn’t want players who can play any less than 8 positions or so.

    You make very good points regarding the French League style of play, but that really does point out the lack of strength in the league (see: Faroe Islands v Italia) and Lyon’s overall dominance. And until this year I was able to see quite a few Ligue 1 games (mostly PSG, Sochaux & Auxerre) and the game didn’t appear much different until you looked at the players individually. That’s where the question of a lateral move comes in. I’ve spent the majority of my life being an athlete, and to this day it remains my raison d’etre. What I gather, and most athletes will echo the same, is that the better the level of competition around me, the better athlete I become. I could do well and spend the rest of my days dominating lesser opposition but it would be limiting my ceiling. When I come up against a better opponent it a) forces me to step up my game significantly and b) teaches me about my mistakes and the part of my game that I need to work on to truly fulfill my potential. This, to me, is invaluable and exactly why I feel a move from Ligue 1 (regardless of the team) to Serie A cannot be considered lateral. Athletes are not measured by their level of skill, they are measured by their level of skill versus the opposition. That is why I think players like Tiago, Diarra, Malouda and Abidal want to move to Spain, England and Italia. To raise their games and improve as athletes. Well, that and the paycheck of course. I think it’s a lot easier to look in from the outside, rather than out from the inside. The players think much differently than us fans.

    As for the FFF argument, I agree as long as Domenech is coach. But it really should not matter what league you play in provided you have the requisite skill and fit properly into the team concept.

    And as for the money aspect regarding Roma/Lyon, the reason I think the younger players like Mexes want to stick around has to do with Franco Sensi. He is getting well on in years and seems to be in less than stellar health, and once he dies, it is widely expected Rosella Sensi will sell the family interest in the club. She has stated before she’s not a football fan and that she really doesn’t know much about the sport itself, rather more about the business aspect. Most expect, when Franco passes on, that a big name will come in and buy the club (already speculation regarding the Emirates Airlines recent sponsorship) and turn it into a global brand. I mean, the club is in fricken Rome. It doesn’t get much better than that from a marketing/business perspective. So, I beliieve, over the next few years, Roma will be bringing in younger talent under this assumption. Hopefully, that will vault it back into Tier 1.

    Oh, and don’t discount Fiorentina. They are going to be one of the better teams in Europe in the near future. They have massive talent on that squad and a coach that seems like he’s got a clue.

    I could be wrong about all that though. It’s happened once before. I think. :)

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  • Inara |  June 7th, 2007 at 3:08 pm

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    It’s true, OL players do eventually leave for the bigger leagues. But Edmilson left for Barca, Essien left for Chelsea, Diarra left for Madrid, Abidal will probably go to Barca (or Milan), Malouda to Liverpool or Arsenal, Tiago probably to Juventus or Milan.

    Talented OL players will eventually move on to a better league - and a bigger club. But right now, unless they get the attention of Europe’s biggest, it doesn’t make much sense to go anywhere else. These are young players who still have a lot to learn and have a ways to go before they become NT fixtures, experience that Lyon can provide as well as Roma.

    Despite playing against poorer opposition, young players like Clerc, Toulalan, and Benzema are proving themselves on far bigger stages, both for their NT and in Europe. So surely playing for OL isn’t handicapping them too much?

    Not to change topic, but I hope Fiorentina do well next year. They are the only Italian club I saw live, so I have a weird emotional attachment to them.

    Though I was in Rome a few months ago, but the closest I got to Roma was walking past a big billboard of Totti’s face.

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  • Chris |  June 7th, 2007 at 3:29 pm

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    No, exactly, the French league is a perfect place for younger players because it allows them to develop and gain confidence while learning from their mistakes on the job. If a player like Nasri or Ben Arfa moved to Madrid right now it would be a difficult transition because there is some experience they need from the professional game that they simply don’t have right now. Now if they spend time in Ligue 1 they can develop against a lower class of opposition and gain a lot of various attributes from that time spent. But when players start approaching their peak, it’s time to move on to gain that extra bit of knowledge, ability and experience you can only acquire by playing with and against the best on a regular basis. My argument isn’t against them becoming good players - there’s no question there is an abundance in Ligue 1 - it’s what’s need to fulfill their potential as athletes. That’s something that can typically only come from elite opposition. It would be easier to gain that playing regularly in Italy than France.

    And I never said anything about the talent at Lyon, only a fool would argue against that. Three of my favorite players style-wise - Essien, M. Diarra, and Tiago - all spent time developing in Lyon. The scouts at the club are top-notch and their players deserve to move to big clubs.

    Fiorentina was the only club you saw live? Was it an intra-squad scrimmage? :)

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  • Inara |  June 7th, 2007 at 5:16 pm

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    I was visiting Florence, and my friend took me to watch a practice. I wish I had stayed long enough to see an actual match :(

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  • Corey |  June 8th, 2007 at 6:24 am

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    I agree about Fiorentina, they will be good in the coming years, they are building a young team. But, they will remain, like Lazio, outside the big 4, that really wont be broken up.
    Inara broguht up a good point, that the players that play in France do well with the French NT and in the Champions League, and when they move to bigger teams they do well too. It says something about these players, they are competing at a high level, but because France doesnt get the recognition that Spain Italy or England does, they feel to be more of a recognized star, to develop themselves more as a player (i dont believe much in that, its develop to a different league, not a new stratosphere of playing in other leagues) and to bring home a bigger paycheck, they must move abroad to do those things. In reality they dont, although I dont blame players for wanting to try out different leagues and teams, but using excuses like being in the best league in the world, give me a break. Just say, hey Ive been at Lyon for awhile now, I want to try my luck in Spain, maybe Italy, you do only live once so why not (abidal).

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  • jc |  June 11th, 2007 at 1:23 am

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    what stupid comments. first you say he wasn’t worth 16m. then you see him score a couple goals the likes of which he has scored all season and you suddenly decide he is worth 16m.

    and what kind of idiot changes his mind after watching just one game.

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