A Plethora of Absurd Rumours (And Chivu Is Not Going North)

By: Chris | June 6th, 2007

532713481_ef17f6aba1_m.jpgCHIVUGATE:

Martha and I are going to fight to the death over this.

Unless you’ve been living on Pluto, or America, over the last 3-4 days then you probably have heard that a deal sending Chivu to Internazionale is “imminent.” For those of us living on Earth, that being anyone outside of the media or Milan, let’s stick to the facts. Chivu has demanded that Roma match the 4m euro per annum deal that Inter offered or ship him out. Rosella Sensi said no, that the best they could do was the 3.6m offer given to Phillipe Mexes, and most would wholeheartedly agree with their stance. Chivu is good but Mexes is younger and had a better year last year, and he is the lynchpin of the back line, now and for the future. If I had to choose between Mexes and Chivu, it would be Phillipe 11 times out of 10. That being said, Chivu will not be sold to Inter. Yeah, Chivu is not going to be sold to Inter. Roma will wait for a better offer (likely from outside of Milan) and expect Chivu to be in training camp this summer. Roma wants at least double the value of the offer from Inter. So don’t expect a quick resolution to this debacle.

So for everyone in the Nerazurri half of Milan, stop holding your breath. If Christian goes anywhere it’s much more likely to involve Real Madrid (or Barca, who have also approached Roma) than anyone in Serie A. Roberto Carlos has signed with Fenerbahce and the LB spot is now open in Madrid, not to mention the likely movement of Cannavaro. I believe Marcelo is a LB but Real have been after Chivu since his Ajax days, even when they didn’t have a spot for him. And I’ve said it before, the proposed deals are for .30 on the dollar and Roma will not allow that, especially to a rival. Internazionale should be docked points for their transfer offers this summer anyway. There is a difference between trying to milk all you can out of a deal and insulting a player’s talent, quality and value and the intelligence of the other club’s hierarchy. I have yet to see a proposed deal this summer from Inter that wouldn’t be laughed off by a club’s front office. Some already have.

It’s now about 99% likely Chivu’s tenure in Rome has closed, so let’s look at the positive impact: A likely deal netting a value of 22M +. Subtract the 8m for Juan and that leaves at least 14m in value to add to the transfer budget (trust me on this, I was a math major), not including any player swaps. That makes the budget roughly 34-44m euros. More than enough to go after some big boys. I’m actually excited about this. If Chivu didn’t want to sacrifice 400,00 euros to play for the Giallorossi, then he can pack his bags right now.

I know this goes against everything the English speaking press is reporting, but I trust Il Romanista. They are right almost all the time because of their connections. If I am wrong I have no problem eating my words.

Update: Goal.com is backtracking from the claims of an “imminent” deal.

“However, it is far from assured yet that Chivu will join the Nerazzurri, particularly with Roma wanting to hang on to him if they can.”

Whaddya know……..

Update 2: Barcelona have offered Juliano Belletti, Sylvinho and “robust” economic compensation. I don’t really know how I feel about the players (they’re both defenders on the wrong side of 30), but I like the fact that more teams are throwing their hat into the Chivu race. A bidding war was inevitable. I’ll try to find out what the money factor is. Take that, Moratti.

The rest of it:

Alright now that that’s settled, the European media apparently had nothing to write about yesterday, because they spent the day writing stories and rumours that they obvously pulled directly out of their collective arses. The Giallorossi were linked with no less than 412 players at some point yesterday, and the list is still growing. Let’s run down the list real quick so we’re all on the same page, and then I’ll explain why media members, namely those working for goal.com, are stupid: Juan, Fred, Cicinho, Naldo, Julien Faubert (Hey, a surname!), Francesco Modesto, Per Mertesacker and Alessandro Rosina.

Juan (Bayer Leverkusen): Rumor is Juan (top pic, on the right) will be bought ASAP at a price of 8m euros to replace Chivu. Juan is not that much of a drop from Chivu and they are within a year’s age, but Chivu is valued at roughly three times the Brazilian. The official dance at the Olimpico is about to be the samba. AS Roma: Selecao, Italian chapter.
Cicinho (Real Madrid): Real Madrid & Roma are talking, and with the departure of Roberto Carlos, I don’t see anyway that Real wouldn’t at least be feeling out a Chivu deal. There is a very good chance that Cicinho winds up in Rome around the same time Chivu departs.
Fred (Lyon): The deal is officially dead. Stop talking about it.
Naldo & Per Mertesacker (Werder Bremen): Here’s where the rumors starting getting questionable at best. Both names hit the rumor mill yesterday on goal.com(I’m beginning to really hate yahoo for taking over eurosport because goal is now a ‘go to’ page, awful) after an “imminent” deal sending Chivu to Inter is finished. D’oh! As for the two beanpoles? My guess is the staffers at goal.com, or whatever agency first reported this, took a map of Europe, put on a blindfold and fired a dart at the map. Whatever city with a major club came closest they decided to link them with the best defender(s) as a Chivu replacement. Roma officials, when asked, vehemently denied any talks regarding the pair. Out of the two, Naldo is most likely because he can probably perform the new official dance of AS Roma: the samba. And yeah, this probably means both will be inking long term deals with Roma within the next few days.
Julien Faubert (Wine Country): Talks are still progressing and Faubert’s agent said that if Roma makes a decent contract offer then he will come to the capital, if not he’s off to the Prem. Talks should resume post-Chivugate.
Francesco Modesto (Reggina): Modesto is desperate to move to Rome according to the agent (ya think?), but Roma haven’t made contact in a couple days. Maybe they realize with a newfound influx of coin they can step up the class of their targets? Let’s hope. Though with Chivu, Defendi and Martinez all on the way out, they do need significant depth in back. Hopefully that’s all this is.
Alessandro Rosina (Torino): “Roma are still interested.” Quality journalism right there. Quality journalism.
Ciprian Marica (Shaktar Donetsk): I have to admit, I completely forgot that Roma had expressed great interest in the young Romanian striker/winger during the January window and beyond. Marica really impressed the Roma hierarchy while playing against them in the CL for Shaktar Donetsk. After all, Roma now likely needs a token Romanian (he’s also BFF with Chivu….hmmmm). There are reports that Roma has agreed to terms with Marica, but now needs to negotiate with the Ukranians. I’m a little weary of the assumed pricetag, but Roma say a deal will be done very soon. Nothing has been mentioned yet for Roma but he was bought for 5m euros by Donetsk in ‘04. That’s a lot of bank for a 19-year old kid who had been playing in the lowly Romanian league (my apologies, Bob). Who knows what Shaktar would ask for now. No matter the price it would probably be a cash + pipeline deal.

Wait a second, I’ll take that back. Steaua Bucharest won a Champions League final? And Roma hasn’t?

I quit. I quit life. I quit everything.

Mancini:
Now, as for this Mancini to Liverpool crap, again. I love Liverpool, don’t get me wrong, but this strikes me as a typical EPL “we have more money than you do so we’re going to come in and try to buy your best players and there’s not a damn thing you can do about it because we’re rich and we’re in the Premiership which is like the best league ever, duhhhh” move. Now that the American owners have stuck their flag in the ground it seems as though the English newspapers assume they can link anyone with one of the Big 4 because they have beaucoup bucks. Well, there hasn’t been a single newspaper article or rumor in Italia mentioning this that I know of, and especially not from Il Romanista, the almighty AS Roma source. So, no information from Italian media, the media notorious for sniffing out any possible gossip around? Sounds like a British tabloid fantasy to me. Let’s call it the ‘Abramovich-effect.’ Mancini wants to stay, he makes a ton of coin as it is and it would cost Liverpool more than they bargained for. Slim chance.

However, while I would be very nervous about next year’s results if Chivu and Mancini left, an over-the-top offer well in the 20m range would have to be perused. If they could push their potential transfer budget to over 50m euros, even after buying Juan, I’m not sure I would be so disheartened. That would enable them to buy Quagliarella, Rosina and Cicinho and still have about 15m left over (crap I’m starting to sound like a Prem fan). I know I know. I’m getting ahead of myself with the fantasy football, but selling Mancini for a large sum is not exactly worst-case scenario. Still, probably not happening.

Time to start mentally preparing for the Lithuania game. I don’t know if I’ll be able to watch it, and I’m not so sure that’s a bad thing. But let’s all pray.

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  • billiverdin |  June 6th, 2007 at 9:46 am

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    let’s take barzali mertesacker instead or juan at least

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  • Juan Carlos |  June 6th, 2007 at 10:03 am

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    I would like to revive the Brazilian spirit Roma has had in the back and bring in Juan and Cicinho to the team… Later in the future that will help bring in even more brazilians.

    But my dream would be Mertersacker, he is one of the best defenders out there

    p.s did you check out the forum?

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  • Corey |  June 6th, 2007 at 10:05 am

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    Haha, Keita really isnt worth that much more the Bodmer. But who cares, cause Lyon are about to get Bodmer and I dont think they will stump up and pay all that money for Keita. Goodluck with the Chivu thing, id rule Real Madrid out cause they look like taking on Heinze, but they are reported to be loaning Marcelo to Espanyol so maybe… Roma still has hope for Suazo too, after Inter’s ridiculous offer. Cagliari wanted Andreolli (inter says no way) and Aquafresca (Inter says “fresh water” umm sure) pardon my humor, but what a strange name. Anyways, Marica is a talent, he would be a good addition, as would Modesto. Rosina is good but he doesnt exactly bag goals like Bianchi does, why not look at him, and of course the Qual, who’s co-ownership deal coupled with Vucinic’s deal are beyond comprehension.

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  • Chris |  June 6th, 2007 at 10:14 am

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    I think Bianchi is an out-and-out striker and, until Spalletti indicates otherwise, there is only one man up top for Rome. Suazo is world-class, so an exception could be made there. Marica and Modesto would be great young additions but I hope they are on relatively short money. And I would love Mertesacker but a) I don’t think he’ll leave Bremen after a year and b) he would cost some serious bank.

    Juan, I applied for membership to check out the boards and it’s awaiting approval.

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  • Muddia Dome |  June 6th, 2007 at 12:02 pm

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    They need to get Mertaserker, if only because his name is funny enough to compensate for the loss of comedy caused by Chivu’s batman mask in action.

    Chris, I hope you are watching because since I can’t, I need a running diary to compensate.

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  • Forza Futbol |  June 6th, 2007 at 12:23 pm

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    I wish somehow things could be worked out with Chivu. I definitely do NOT want to see him at Inter and I hope we steal Suazo from them. If we get Juan and Ze Roberto or Mertesacker. I live Faubert, Quag, and Marica. I just don’t think that with RC leaving, El Madrid will let Cicinho go, just a thought. I don’t think Mancini is going anywhere as well.

    Chris I am addicted to your blog here. Let me know if there are any others.

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  • Chris |  June 6th, 2007 at 12:31 pm

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    Sorry, my laptop bluescreened(Dell is crap) and I’m using a Mac. Can’t get games on the Mac.

    I can live blog the second half using ESPN Gamecast if you want…..

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  • Muddia Dome |  June 6th, 2007 at 12:39 pm

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    That’s how I am following. It’s not bad, but it’d be nice if there was some sort of sound when something happens, causing me to look up from my desk.

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  • Corey |  June 6th, 2007 at 12:48 pm

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    A the blue screen from dells. You need to apply the blue screen patches which can be found on the dell support website, they are typically a BIOS patch, a system software utiltity update and a audio drive update if you have a Latitude.

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  • Ethan |  June 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pm

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    Or, Corey, Get a Mac. The game can be summed up in three words: We Need Quags.

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  • Bashar Beiruti |  June 6th, 2007 at 2:47 pm

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    Razvan Rat and Stefan Radu have all been linked in addition to Marica.. I think it’s a Romanian 3 in 1 package..

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  • Corey |  June 6th, 2007 at 3:00 pm

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    Macs, nah, alot of money for alot of stuff you will never use

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  • Chris |  June 6th, 2007 at 3:07 pm

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    Bashar, do you have a link or anything?

    As for the Macs, I’m not a fan. But I paid nearly 4K for the custom Dell that has had to be replaced once and sent to be fixed twice. I think I’m just going to buy a new laptop and start over.

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  • Bashar Beiruti |  June 6th, 2007 at 8:51 pm

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    Il Romanista had an article talking about it:

    http://www.ilromanista.it/?section=news&id=7857

    There’s also Sebastian Tamas that they mentioned Roma might be looking into. I don’t know Italian so I might have misunderstood it. But this is the second time I’ve heard that Roma are interested in Marica, Radu, and Rat.

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  • Chris |  June 6th, 2007 at 9:23 pm

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    I read that article this morning I must have stopped about 2/3 down. Thanks for pointing it out. Good info.

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  • FlackAttack |  June 7th, 2007 at 5:18 am

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    Wow! I love this forum. I am a huge Roma fan living in Italy. I am Italian – American and never thought there would be this much support for my beloved Roma out side of Italy. No pun on the Bandwagoners around the world but seems like most people in the US only know about Juve and Milan. Anywho- I am stoked to see that there is a lot of support and great comments (intelligent posts) as well. Hope to post my opinions in the future…trying to read up on all these posts that you guys have. Va beh ragga’ si sentimo a presto!

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  • FlackAttack |  June 7th, 2007 at 5:20 am

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    …..oh yeah……FORZA ROMA!

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  • FlackAttack |  June 7th, 2007 at 5:21 am

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    Ok….not a roma related question…but why do my posts say from the USA? Do I have to change a settting or something? I thought it was automatically going to pick up my I.P. and know that I am posting from Italy. Va beh. Not the end of the world

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  • FlackAttack |  June 7th, 2007 at 6:10 am

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    Wasn’t going to post this soon, but goal.com and channel 4 are busting out with the Camonaresi move to Roma. I checked all the italian sources (gazzetta.it, raisports, etc) and I couldn’t find any mention of this. Has anyone heard of this? What are your opinions. I think he is a good workhorse, but I don’t think Channel 4’s assession that he can play in all of Roma’s midfield rolls. The thing that worries me the most is that it seems his repoire went south due to money. That being said, what will be his asking price at Roma? I can’t find any mention of it in the Italian press. What is this going to cost us and do we really need another player that doesn’t bring anything different to the table than a Perrotta or De Rossi. I would rather spend the money on an attacker like Quagliarella or Suazo. If it doesn’t cost us much. Snag him cause he is a good player. But Roma’s midfield is not where we are hurting at the moment. PACE e Forza Roma!

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  • Frenchesco |  June 7th, 2007 at 6:29 am

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    Hi Chris!!!

    I ve been reading ur articles since 4 or 5 days and I think they r great.
    I’ve been a roma fan for around 6 years and I found out the link of “Offside” on a Roma forum (Xtremefootballfans)where there is a good community of Roma fans.
    I read just now that ur messages were posted from Malaysia. Is that correct???
    I’m asking because I’m workinh here in Malaysia, KL precisely.
    Anyway, let me know if u r located in KL too.
    THANKS again for ur articles which are a great source of information.
    Don’t change anything.
    Frenchesco

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  • Xelius |  June 7th, 2007 at 6:32 am

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    Hmm on the Camonaresi front I personally think without any evidence to back it up that hes just talking “smack”. Hes just throwing out Romas name IMO trying to get Juve to give him better remunerations for staying with them during their trip to where they truly belong, Serie B. The statement by his agent and the such elude to me he has no intention of going to Rome at all hes just trying to get some more euros in the pocket. So I aint going to give a second thought to how he would fit into the team. (Although I am probably wrong)

    Btw Chris still loving your blog although crying at the fact your only doing 1 post a day nowadays rather then 2 like you were before :( . Lol, I know there isnt much to write about on the transfer front but your Roma related rants are hilarious, they alone are worth a second post.

    Last comments damn that Quagliarella why did he have to score those 2 screamers. After I watched both goals I was like, IDIOT now more then before your price is gonna go up 10 fold and every Tom, Dick and Harry is gonna want a peice of you, =( oh well.

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  • Chris |  June 7th, 2007 at 8:16 am

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    Thanks everybody, I’ll try to pump out posts more often but there’s only so much to write about on a 20m transfer budget. So if anyone has a couple hundred mill lying around donate it to the Sensi’s and I’ll write 4-5 a day.

    I’m currently posting from the US, for some reason it lists different countries for a lot of people. Flawed system I gather.

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  • Corey |  June 7th, 2007 at 1:53 pm

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    Chris, I work on Dell,s all day long, and you may have gotten a lemon, but if you bought the service package ($4000 means you most likely got the best) means you can get replacement parts and or a new computer based on a bunch of different variables. If you want to know how to do this i will tell you i jsut need to know you model # and yor service plan and you will be in business

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  • Chris |  June 7th, 2007 at 2:34 pm

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    Corey, thanks a lot for the offer but I actually purchased one last night. It was about time anyway, some of the specs were becoming passe.

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  • Corey |  June 8th, 2007 at 6:27 am

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    Haha, yeah I have a d620 lat. and because Vista is rolling out this fall at school the poor laptop will be sucking wind a bit to run that monster of an OS. Its alright though, I break it and get a new one through the warranty system. I was thinking of putting it in the center circle during one of my club team matches and seeing how messed up it gets.

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