A Potpourri of Useless Flapdoodle

By: Chris | June 22nd, 2007

524413107_f5adfe5434_m1.jpgThe Signings:

Yesterday was the day of official announcements and such, and Roma have now officially acquired Juan from Bayer Leverkusen for €6.3m and the full sum of Mirko Vucinic for €7.5m. It was reported earlier that Roma had bought only half of Mirko, but this was technically incorrect. The transfer fee will be paid in two separate installments, €3.75m over the next two years. Juan’s arrival has been the worst kept secret in Europe since February or so, and this was more of a formality (and for Martha, his full name is Juan Silveira dos Santos). Mirko was another case, he didn’t exactly shine in his first season at the Olimpico and €7.5m is no small chunk of change for a club with a reported €20m transfer budget (I’m beginning to think it’s close to the higher end of €30m), even if only half the sum is factored in this year. Hopefully a full preseason, or any preseason, with Roma and a year off injury will benefit Mirko greatly so he can fulfill that ridiculous potential he showed at Lecce. I’m not looking for a repeat of the 19 goals in 24 games at Lecce but I don’t think 8-10 in all competitions is unachievable, provided he gets an increase in playing time. I love both of these signings. One is already world-class and the other very well should be. Quality moves for a skosh under €14m.

The Economics (FTSAH*):
Mirko cost Roma €3.25m last season, so his complete total comes to €10.75m. Fair price for someone with so much talent.

It seems Juan’s fee will be paid over 2.5 years in 5 installments every 6 months, so that’s €2.52m against this year’s books. David Pizarro’s €5.75m will be paid in 3 installments - which works out to €1.92m. If this is how the actual payments will go, I really don’t know - but we’ll use it for now. As for Vucinic, his number against the budget this season is €3.75m, with the other half being sent to Lecce next year. Ahmed Barusso cost between €2-2.5m, so we’ll assume the high end. The co-ownership with Marco Cassetti will even itself out with the sale of the three kids, and Roma will be taking in between €1-2m for Comotto to add to the bottom line. So,

€2.52m + €1.92m + €3.75m + €2.5m = €10.69m against this season’s budget.

My applied differential equations class in college was a hell of a lot easier than figuring out Roma’s books, but I was curious. Four quality to high-quality players (I’m including Pizarro in that) for next year for €10.69m, that’s really some pretty decent business. Not bad, Roma. Not bad.

I’m not going to do salaries because that’s a lot more complicated with the incentives and such. And if you think I’m going to start figuring out Italian taxes before I have to pay them, you’re out of your mind.

* FTSAH = For Those Scoring At Home. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

Chivugate:

The news involving Chivugate had little to do with Christian Chivu yesterday, but it will likely have a huge impact nonetheless. Barca lost captain Carles Puyol to a torn ligament for at least 3 mos, some reports saying a minimum of 6 mos. Either way, ligament injuries can be very tough. Considering Barca’s main task this summer was to be shoring up the defensive back and Puyol was their only consistent star last season, this doesn’t bode well for Barca. It does, however, bode well for Roma, because they just gained massive leverage over Barcelona. They were looking to Chivu to help shore up the back line anchored by Puyol, now they need a world-class defender that can replace Puyol until he is able to return and then form a partnership with Captain Caveman.

As for Roma, this is just huge huge huge. Even though Barca reportedly had yet to contact Christian’s agent, they met with Roma officials this morning. Daniele Prade maintained that talks were little more than preliminary, but it has widely assumed that a €15m offer(min.) was on the way. Now, Roma can finally play hardball because world-class defenders don’t exactly grow on trees and there aren’t too many on the market. There will be a few relatively big-names to make the rumor mill, like Pepe and Jorge Andrade; but Chivu was on Barca’s platform anyway. If Barca was sincerely ready to offer €15m as a starting point before Puyol’s injury, then Roma need to settle for absolutely nothing less than €17-18m now. Ideally Roma would start off negotiations at €20m+ and refuse to drop the price to see how far they could push Barca, but I don’t think Rosella has it in her. I’m not sure the word leverage is in her vocabulary.

If nothing happens regarding Barcelona over the next week or so, hopefully Roma will at least use this as a negotiating tactic with Inter and use that to drive up Chivu’s price substantially. Even though I’m fairly convinced Moratti isn’t so hot and heavy for Christian anymore. Hopefully Roma doesn’t bite at the first offer that comes along and they milk Christian for every penny he’s worth. Yes, I’m quite convinced he was played his last day in a Giallorossi uniform. So start making plans for the press conference announcing his contract extension.

More Roman Nuggets:

i) Roma and Blackburn are discussing a move for Shabani Nonda which would net around €2m. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. In 2000 Monaco paid something like €20m for Chris from Rennes. Holy Fricken Moses. That, my friends, is what you would call an absolute nosedive. I wonder if anyone has lost 90% of their value over 6 years without losing an appendage, major organ or their mind (that one’s for you, Antonio).

ii) Luciano’s love affair with Jeremy Mathieu has picked back up again. I’m surprised it took this long. We’ve assumed Juan was coming regardless of Chivugate’s result, but it’s very possible Mathieu is Chivu’s direct replacement in terms of a roster spot. They have been thisclose to closing a deal for what seems like decades, so I’d be surprised if this at least didn’t get into the advanced stages. The former reports had him listed between €4-6m, and if Chivu goes that’s a very fair price for someone of his quality and versatility. In Luciano’s system he could cover six positions. Also, I’m pretty sure he won’t be a hard sell. No wonder Luciano has devoted one of his infamous man-crushes to him.

iii) Cagliari have maintained there are talks with Roma regarding Mauro Esposito, but they would prefer that it be on a co-ownership basis. Let’s call this The Fabio Quagliarella Effect. In other words, “if Mauro rediscovers his form of a couple years ago you’re going to have to pay out your ass.” Smart move from Cagliari, because Mauro is hovering around his “buy low” point right about now. I thought the co-ownerships were over. Damnit.

iv) File Giandomenico Mesto under the group “would be happy with either Lazio or Roma” aka get a clue you nincompoop. It’s not both, it’s one or the other. This isn’t creamy or extra chunky. It’s two fanbases who despise each other (mostly), there is no purgatory. It’s only heaven or hell. Choose wisely.

The Flapdoodle:

I) One of my top ten favorite commercials ever. Carlos Tevez has quickly become one of my favorite players in the world. Great guy, huge talent and awesome personality - he would be tops on my list of player’s for Roma to acquire. Unfortunately it would cost about twice Roma’s budget. That and there’s the whole Brazilian theme currently at Roma.

If losing David Suazo meant that Tevez would wind up at Inter, I would fly to Milan, kidnap Suazo and handcuff him to Roberto Mancini’s wrist. And you know how I feel about Suazo. Carlitos is that damn good. Can you even imagine what he and Zlatan could accomplish together?

I’m getting all flustered and upset even thinking about this. We need to move on.

II)
Credit goes to the lady for this one. (Warning: Crappy dancing video ahead.) There was a parody done of this dance from “So You Think You Can Dance” and it’s an absolute riot. I guess that first routine was supposedly pretty good. To me it looked more like a coordinated seizure on stage. But I digress….

I apologize for making you watch the first one in order to understand the second. I really do.

III) I said yesterday we needed to come up with an official nickname for Vucinic, and I threw out Veni Vidi Vuci. Kokogol, Mirkonic and Voochi Vous were also nominated. I like the Veni Vidi Vuci for whenever he does something great, which should be often next season, but it’s a little much for constant usage. We need more suggestions before we decide, keep em coming.

IV) Now that The Artist Formerly Known As The Divine Dimple aka Fab Quags aka Fabio Quagliarella has almost definitely been taken beyond Roma’s reach, it looks like the number one person on the wishlist for the wings is Julien Faubert. Rosinaldo looks to be staying put in Torino for the time being, and Franco Semioli can’t make up his mind. So let’s get everybody onto the Julien Faubert to Rome bandwagon. Here are the requisite videos to make you all hot & heavy:

Highlights of last season. Check out the move and subsequent laser cross at the two minute mark. Holy Fuckin Christmas. If Wilhelmsson tried that he would’ve knocked the ball past the defender then ran straight into his backside. Oh Christian.

Game highlights, radio interaction and an expose on Faubert getting his leg tattoed. Roma seems to have great luck with hugely talented, heavily tattoed Frenchmen. All the more reason for me.

Bordeaux 2 - Toulouse 0. Game highlights but it has a few awesome displays from Faubert, including a goal. He just looks to be too good for Bordeaux, his moves are phenomenal and he drops back fairly far because of his defensive abilities but then flies forward to beat defenders to the ball. He’s ideal for Roma. Essentially, he’s Bizarro Pizarro (I’m really sorry but I had to).

More highlights, but a few of the defensive variety (Warning: QMC - Questionable Music Selection). I really hadn’t seen this kid that much, had heard tons about him, but I want him at all costs now. He’s like a more talented Tonetto; he can take care of the whole right side if necessary. That’s priceless. (Thanks to Marco420 for the video)

I just want to know one thing: is Ligue 1 as a whole fairly slow or is he just that ridiculously fast? Seriously, he just blows by professional athletes with ease. Also, it’s no wonder so many players score tons of goals in France and then struggle elsewhere (i.e. Nonda, Cisse). The goalkeeping is a little more than questionable. Actually, it’s not just questionable. It can be downright fucking brutal. It’s like a whole league of Fabien Barthez-like decision making without the talent. Ouch.

V) If somebody told you 6 weeks ago that Roma would be signing a Selecao starting XI mainstay, a 19 goal scorer at 21 years of age in Serie A, a beast of a midfielder considered the next Michael Essien from under the noses of both Milan and Inter and re-signing their best defender who is 25 years old to a long contract extension, all within the first month of the summer, how would you feel?

I would probably start stocking the shelves full of water and canned goods while bracing for the apocalypse. I know Chivu and the “sexier” names have dominated the headlines, but I’m thrilled thus far. I’m really hoping for a high-quality winger - not Esposito - and a little defensive depth (nothing fancy unless Chivu goes), but I’m really happy with the progress of the summer and wouldn’t be crushed if Roma were done. The best part is they haven’t been bent over for any of the deals (except Pizarro), they were all fair prices. The management can’t be getting a clue, can they?

No………

VI) It’s the gratuitous 1980’s Music Video Which Is Way Awesome Because It’s So Ridiculously Over-The-Top. This has had my vote as best music video of all-time for years now. How can anyone argue that? I’ll also give it a 73% chance of getting the song stuck in your head today. You’ll thank me later. Ba dah ba dah Ba dah ba dah.

VII) For anyone who doubted Jenny McCarthy’s current sexiness.

Actually, nobody really questioned it, I just wanted a reason to post sexy pics of Jenny. Anybody have a problem with that? Didn’t think so. And if you click on the link at the bottom, most of you can relive the mid-to-late 1990’s in splendid fashion (nsfw).

It’s become a foregone conclusion that at some point during the night I’m going to get slapped or punched on the arm, chest or elsewhere by the lady because of these posts and comment pages. And for some reason I am also wholly responsible for Martha and her WAGs, as well as the fact that the closest Dunkin Donuts has stopped serving vanilla chais (it’s fricken 85 degrees out), her height, Boston traffic, the rapid rise of the inflation rate in Zimbabwe and the Franco-Prussian War.

Oh, it’s going to be a good night. Russel Crowe, eat your fucking heart out.

VIII) Zlatan’s Corner:

Reporter: “Is your playing style Swedish or Yugoslavian?”

Zlatan: “It’s Zlatan-style.”

I’ve decided something at the offside needs to be solely dedicated to Zlatan more than a little corner once a week. I’m not sure what, but we all need this to happen. Martha, help me out here.

Zlatan’s video of the week.
Just last season’s ridiculous highlights, but worth every second of it.

IX) Bringing back some classic ads. One of the ultimate football commercials. Anybody else have one of those “Au Revoir” T-shirts?

I hate to admit this, because I hate ManU, but Eric Cantona is The Guy. I mean, he’s just phenomenal all-around. Great talent, ridiculous comments, drop-kicking fans - it doesn’t get much better than that. He’s the original Zlatan.

Unless your name is Francesco Totti, of course.

* The Great Hair Debate will begin Monday.





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  • Martha |  June 22nd, 2007 at 9:38 am

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    Please tell me you’ve featured this video in Zlatan’s corner — it’s beyond magnificent. You know Zlatan?

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  • Chris |  June 22nd, 2007 at 9:46 am

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    Martha, oh ye of little faith…..

    http://roma.theoffside.com/team-news/a-potpourri-of-useless-flapdoodle-2.html

    By the way, I wasn’t kidding about blaming me for the WAGs. She was searching the offside last night, pointed to one of your pics and said “What the hell is this?” and then started yelling at me like I had killed her puppy. What are you doing to me here?

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  • Martha |  June 22nd, 2007 at 9:48 am

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    Oh thank god. I should never have underestimated you.

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  • WAGFather Muddia |  June 22nd, 2007 at 10:04 am

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    Chris, you can lay all the blame on me for the WAGs to your girl. It is thus far my greatest accomplishment of 2007. And there was logic to it, far too much manekedness was going on over at the Italy offside. Martha was kind enough to oblige.

    By the way, awesome commercial there. How come sports commercials here all have to star Peyton Manning? Couldn’t Nike spruce things up like they clearly do overseas?

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  • DB |  June 22nd, 2007 at 10:16 am

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    from goal.com

    Il Romanista have since revealed inside news from the meeting, claiming that an agreement has been reached which will see Barcelona offer Ludovic Giuly, Juliano Belletti and 12 million euros in exchange for Chivu.

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  • Chris |  June 22nd, 2007 at 10:23 am

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    I saw that. Giuly has said he won’t go anywhere but France, and I don’t want him anyway. A lot of Barca fans would love nothing more than to dump him. I don’t see Roma taking on two big salaries. They want cash, straight cash.

    WAgFather, I’m not upset - I’ll make it through. The Nike soccer commercials have to go down as some of the best of all time, especially the secret tournament.

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  • DB |  June 22nd, 2007 at 10:58 am

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    i dont want them either…i’d rather have all cash…a buddy from barcelona says that entire team is a bunch of spoiled babies…give us the money and keep the inflated egos

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  • Juan Carlos Sol |  June 22nd, 2007 at 10:58 am

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    Chris did you hear anything about this new reform I posted about in the last blog? about the tv rights in Italy? would be nice if you found something and wrote about it… im still not sure if it’s true…

    another great blog by the way, and I too am very happy with this transfer campaign and I hope we do sign Faubert ASAP even though he doesn’t seem to know how to dribble much but Taddei and Mancini can give him some classes jajajaja… but my first choice is still cicinho to roma!

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  • Ethan |  June 22nd, 2007 at 11:00 am

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    How about Thiago Motta and $12 MM for Chivu. A good winder in need of playing time. Or did he already move somewhere else?

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  • Chris |  June 22nd, 2007 at 11:04 am

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    Thanks JCS

    I haven’t seen anything about that from any Italian sources, so I’m not sure how valid it is. I kind of doubt guys like Berlusconi would be a fan of that. I’ll keep a look out, I’m pretty sure it will be a fairly large story so I won’t be able to miss it.

    Motta is there there as far as I know, I’m going to try to find Barca’s salary list. That should eliminate a lot of rumors.

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  • billiverdin |  June 22nd, 2007 at 11:49 am

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    I FOUND THE SOLUTION OF CHIVUGATE!!! WANT MORE MONEY? WANT TO INTER? INTER WANTS YOU TOO? NO PROBLEM JUST GIVE US ADRIANO MORATTI! WE NEED PHYSICALLY STRONG STRIKER ADAPTED IN SERIE-A TRUE? SO ADRI IS GREAT AND WE HAVE SO MANY BRAZILIANS THAT IT WON’T BE HARD TO ADAPT! JUST LET SPALETTI & SENSI KNOW!

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  • Ethan |  June 22nd, 2007 at 12:06 pm

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    Billi, Adriano is kryptonite. And stop screaming!

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  • billiverdin |  June 22nd, 2007 at 12:16 pm

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    sorry

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  • shehan |  June 22nd, 2007 at 12:38 pm

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    how bout mirkonitron. or the vuchinator. those are pretty badass right there…

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  • Francesco |  June 22nd, 2007 at 1:18 pm

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    I loved that Nike commercial. The best part is when Maldini speaks English and says “Maybe their friendly…”

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  • Mike |  June 22nd, 2007 at 1:38 pm

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    I found this commercial yesterday; I don’t know how old it is, and what the hell is a “Stratos” bar (maybe its an export from those Bird People on Eternia?), but this is fkn hilarious:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bggFBWn7YoI

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  • Francesco |  June 22nd, 2007 at 2:50 pm

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    how about those Acqua Uliveto commercials that used to show up during National team games when they had the “minispot” that featured Del Piero talking to that bird. So many people made fun of it, here’s a funny one:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B3_1sfezRY

    and another

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF8K8Ti69ss

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  • DB |  June 22nd, 2007 at 5:30 pm

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    ahhh..Capello is a jackass

    “I am not one of those who go on the winners’ bandwagon and then jump off”, Capello said, “I have my dignity (and Moggi, Giraudo, and Bettega, as with all the people I’ve worked with, remain my friends.”)

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  • Linda |  June 22nd, 2007 at 6:16 pm

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    The 12 million + (pick one or hell, two out of Motta, Edmilson, Giuly, Sylvinho and Belletti) seems pretty plausible to me - I can see Barca making that offer. Jorge Andrade really, really wants to come to Barca, but it seems like Barca want Chivu more.

    Speaking as a Barca supporter, if Roma are smart they’ll avoid Motta like the plague. Not a bad guy, and sometimes a decent player, but always injured.

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  • Chris |  June 22nd, 2007 at 6:25 pm

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    Linda, so far Roma have made it clear they will take nothing but straight cash, so I think Barca’s plan of offloading “surplus to requirements” and contracts will fail. They’ve maintained that €18m is their minimum price. I’m wondering if the Henry signing will throw Real into the scrum to at least bring up the price, or keep Chivu from Barca - especially if their other options don’t pan out.

    As far as Capello goes, he’s a scumbag with a short memory. But he’s a hell of a coach.

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  • Linda |  June 22nd, 2007 at 6:47 pm

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    I can see Barca paying up around 18 million, actually. (And on the surplus players front, apparently Edmilson has done in his knee ligaments again, so he’s not going anywhere.)

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  • Chris |  June 22nd, 2007 at 6:56 pm

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    Agreed. Unless Real gets involved, I’m expecting Christian to wind up at Barca for €17-18m.

    If Real does get involved, they have the ultimate bait in Cicinho. Roma wants him bad and vice-versa. A deal of €10-12m + Cicinho would have Luciano packing Chivu’s bags for him in a heartbeat.

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