Giant Killers v Junior Varsity: Blah

By: chris | November 5th, 2007

luciano-spalletti.jpgGiant Killers 2 - Roma 2

I don’t know whether to lay the blame on Roma for both failing to finish and giving Empoli the opportunity to score two goals; or to commend Empoli for one very lucky goal and one moment of pure genius from Ighli Vannucchi - which never should have been there. Probably a little bit of both, because they’ve shown a knack for getting it done against the big boys (Milan), the almost big boys newly potty-trained (Palermo & Napoli) and still in Pampers and still shatting themselves daily (Lazio). Roma fell into the trap and failed to walk away from Tuscany with 3 points, allowing in a late goal yet again. Let’s recap this.

Juve:
88th 2-2
Fiorentina: 79th 2-2
Napoli: 84th 4-4
Empoli: 90th 2-2

All games which Roma had in the bag, all games which Roma controlled, and all games which Roma drew. That’s a missed 8 points, which puts them 5 points clear at the top and in great position coming into the cakewalk part of the schedule. Hell, two out of four means Roma is still in first place sittin’ drop dead gorgeous going into the latter half of the first leg of fixtures.

* - Well, it’s either stop allowing late goals or score 3 per game, as that seems to be working out fairly well thus far.

To me, the blame lies heavily with three people: Doni for being so far out of position on that Sebastian Giovinco cross (yes, it was a cross), which was reminiscent of his positioning on Vincenzo Iaquinta’s goal; Mirko Vucinic for missing 12,000 sitters against a 7 year old rookie keeper; and lastly, but more importantly and controversially, Luciano Spalletti, for yet again not getting his team ready to play a full 90 and making a questionable sub.

The issues with TGIP aren’t exclusive to the Empoli game, and he is by far the least to blame for the issues in Tuscany, but have been increasingly worrisome ever since the season began. To me the first issue was subbing off Ludovic Giuly at halftime, which appeared to be a tactical switch, because instead of bringing on a like-for-like substitution in a system that was flourishing (such as Mauro Esposito), he brought on Max Tonetto, pushing Cicinho up to RW and clearly trying to defend the lead. Why? Lulu Gulu was one of the two most effective players throughout the first half, and his presence along with Mirko, Simone and Mancini nearly guaranteed another goal or two. Continually keeping Empoli on their defensive toes seemed to be working, did it not? They spent the entire first half making them look like a the JV girls team at my high school, apart from a few odd chances down that lefthand side (yes, the pairing of Cicinho and Lulu is a defensive nightmare, but it’s no reason to change the complete makeup of the game when it’s effective). The other sub was Simone coming off for Ahmed Barusso, which was on the docket early in the second half, when Ahmed was continually running up and down the sidelines, but still had the undertones engraved in Simone’s backside. At least once a game there is a sub or non-sub which leaves everyone scratching their head. Rarely, if ever, does a sub make The Difference.

* - If Giuly did in fact get injured then I’ll paste the pie on my face myself, but I haven’t seen anything like that as of yet and he’s listed for Sporting.

What these substitutions infer is that Spalletti was looking ahead to the game in Portugal. The only trusted option for the wing against Sporting is Ludovic, as Taddei will still be out, Mirko will still be playing up top and he clearly doesn’t trust Espo enough to give him any sort of minutes - another aspect which I don’t understand. Same goes for Simone, who will be needed in Lisbon. To me, those are two “looking ahead” subs. A coach making that type of mistake is inexcusable and really makes one question their abilities as a gaffer. Underestimate nobody. Period. Coaching 101. Hell, it might even be a coaching college prep course.

The other aspects which one must question are his inabilities as a motivator, a troubleshooter and an in-game manager. All three of which are apparent when looking at how Roma reacts to a) late game situations, and b) crisis situations. (Hint: They don’t.) In the first game against Palermo, the boys in yellow & red had to park the team bus in front of net for a solid 20 minutes while continually being saved by the heroics of Doni (yup, it really happened). They got lucky, then came the string of dropped points as a result off late game misjudgments, as well as the derby, where Roma was taking massive amounts of pressure for the last 20 minutes after conceding a goal within range, but got lucky to leave with 3 points. All of this lies on the manager when it happens on such a consistent basis. On his ability to properly prepare (especially), anticipate, motivate and manage in-game situations which require changes in either tactics, personnel or mentality.

I still think he is a tactical genius. I still think he should be - and hope he will be - Roma’s coach for a very long time. I don’t think he has done anything to justify a coaching hot seat right now or in the near future. But I am increasingly beginning to question whether or not he can properly manage a great team, or elevate a team to consistently great status.

The other thing: This team misses its Romans. The international break cannot come soon enough.

Standings

1. Inter 7-0-4 (15)
2. Fiorentina 6-0-5 (11)
3. Roma 6-1-4 (9)
4. Juventus 6-2-3 (11)

Having Inter and Juve draw was ideal, leaving the gap between Roma and the summit unchanged at 3 points. What wasn’t ideal, though, was me jumping off the couch to cheer that game-tying goal from Juve. Afterwards I felt the need to take many many showers to cleanse myself of bad juju which comes along with rooting for the jailbirds.

Also, Big Game Crystal Chivu came to the game once again, tripping or falling or breaking his stiletto heel or whatever which allowed Iaquinta to get space and drop the perfect ball in the box, enabling the goal. Yet another big game, yet another goal with Chivu’s greasy prints all over it. Good shirt to do it in.

Box Score

EMPOLI (4-4-2): Bassi; Raggi, Piccoli, Adani (27′ st Antonini), Tosto; Marianini (27′ Giovinco), Marchisio, Vannucchi, Moro (9′ st Giacomazzi); Saudati, Pozzi.
A disposizione: Pelagotti, Marzoratti, Ascoli, Abate.
Allenatore: Cagni
Squalificati: nessuno
Diffidati: nessuno
Indisponibili: Vanigli, Buscè, Pratali, Balli.

ROMA (4-2-3-1):
Doni; Cicinho, Ferrari, Juan, Cassetti; Pizarro, Brighi; Giuly (1′ st Tonetto), Perrotta (22′ st Barusso), Mancini (41′ st Mexes); Vucinic.
A disposizione: Curci, Antunes, Pit, Esposito.
Allenatore: Spalletti
Squalificati: De Rossi
Diffidati: Vucinic e Mexes
Indisponibili: Totti, Aquilani, Taddei, Panucci.

ARBITRO:
Banti di Livorno
GUARDALINEE: Ayroldi e Lanciano
QUARTO UOMO: Giannoccaro

MARCATORI:
al 13′ Giuly, al 32′ Brighi, 22′ st Vannucchi, 46′ st Giovinco

NOTE:
ammoniti all’11 st Raggi, al 16′ st Saudati, al 9′ st Marchisio, al 19′ st Ferrari, al 30′ st Brighi, al 38′ st Barusso e al 39′ st Cassetti per gioco falloso.

Highlights



Player Ratings


Doni:
All it takes is once, and he should have had that goal. Continually proving he is not the long term answer, as nothing seems to change. 6.5

* - Here’s my solution: Park him in net one day, send every single body on the roster in the box, allow 4 to be defenders, hand Totti the ball anywhere from 10 yards outside the box on out and tell Doni he can’t leave or do the samba until he saves 25 straight. It may take a couple months, but he’ll be a better keeper and maybe learn a thing or two about positioning outside of kama sutra.

Cicinho:
Good, especially in the first half, but nothing like his performance against Milan. 90% of the time he’s in that “flashes” stage, where he occasionally gives a glimpse of his phenomenal abilities, but the other 10% of the time he can completely take over a game. That Cicinho takes this team to another level. 7

Ferrari:
Alright, just alright. Played well enough, but looked a little out of his element a couple times. 6.5

Juan:
Same shit-that-smells-mostly-like-roses, different day. 7.5

Cassetti:
Decent. 6.5

Pizarro: Offensively, a decent performance. Defensively, STOP LEAVING YOUR FUCKING MAN. 6.5

Brighi:
He’s like a riddled-with-debt-but-by-no-means-poor man’s Perrotta at this point, and that’s not so bad. Also, one start, one goal. Is it time to start up the Mirko-esque goal tally for Matteo? Nah. But I’m sure as hell glad they kept him around, and hope he stays on the squad for some time. 7

Mancini:
A consistent threat and a creative force throughout his time on the pitch (what, you didn’t think he’d play the full 90, did you?), and appeared to take his responsibilities with the armband to heart. Also appeared to actually give a shit, which was nice and probably not a coincidence. I think giving him the band was the right move (whether it’s dictated by seniority or not) and should reap benefits in the short term as well. A goal or two would have been nice, though. 7

Lulu Gulu:
Great finish on the goal, was ever-present throughout the first half, continually creating and being the nuisance that we’ve come to know and love. Probably would have factored in another goal had he been left on the pitch. Roma was clearly two different teams in the first and second halves, and the only major change was his absence. I don’t think this was a coincidence today. 7.5

Perrotta: Played very well, but should have been a little more selfish. I know I know. A month ago telling Simone to be more selfish with his shooting would have been enough of a reason to be taken to the gallows, but it might have helped. 7

Vucinic:
Was so invisible in the first half (didn’t touch the ball until the 9th minute), that I was beginning to believe his injury sustained in the Milan game was either recurring or more significant than anyone has actually let on. Either way, the statue of David could have finished those. If Mirko was a “very good” finisher, he’d have about 9 goals right now. What he does better than most is find space with which to work, from there it’s a crapshoot. 6

Barusso:
It was nice to get a look, and damn is he going to be something for the future, but he’s not ready yet. Although he did nothing to scoff at, and he got up and down the field exceptionally well, clearly learning a thing or two from Simone in practice. 6.5

Tonetto: Just kind of, um, there. But who can blame him, it was his first rest of the year. Or it was supposed to be. 6.5

Mexes: Not enough time.

* - For anyone disagreeing that Spalletti shoulders some blame, he was given the second worst rating by the readers of il Romanista, for what it’s worth (little, I know) - worst is Mirko by roughly 7000%. So I’m no one man crusade.


Key Matchups


Roma v Stupid Decisions, Thus Stupid Goals:
The offender on the foul which led to the equalizing goal was Casper the ghost, but either way you cannot let that go in. I also feel taking off Giuly was a stupid decision, and clearly looking towards Sporting was even more inexcusable. Therefore…Winner: Stupid Decisions

Empoli’s Team Bus v The Goal Scoring Virtuoso That Is Vucigol:
Christ, Empoli didn’t need the team bus. Hell, they didn’t even need to throw out the team VW Beetle. They could’ve let Mirko go all Charlie Conway on them and no triple deke in the world he pulled from his arse-nal was going in. Horrid stuff, really. Winner: Empoli

DDR’s Replacement & David v Holding Down The Center Of The Pitch:
Empoli was most effective taking to the flanks early in the game, but Vannucchi’s goal never should have been allowed to happen. His man dropped off him for no apparent reason and he was allowed into space, the marker……you guessed it. A time here or there is understandable for someone with such little defensive ability, but continually like this? Enough is enough already. I’m sorry, but he has to go. You can score all the goals you want, but if you can’t defend well enough to keep your tally one higher than the opponent, it will never matter. Winner: Empoli’s Center Mid

The Top Scoring Booties In Serie A v 22 Year Old Backup Keep In His First Game This Season:
The kid played alright, but he should have been on the losing end of a 6-something embarrassment, except Roma is Serie A’s resident dry humpers. You know who won here? Nobody. Absolutely nobody. Especially not us, the fans.

MOTM:
First half, Lulu. Second half, nobody. Gun to my head it’s Mancini, but he missed some easy celebrations.

Final Point

You can’t drop points against an injury-riddled squad like Empoli, much less good teams, by giving up late goals and expect to compete seriously for the scudetto. Simply, the mentality of this team needs to improve and grow, or else history is doomed to repeat itself all over again.



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  • chris |  November 5th, 2007 at 3:33 pm

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    “i totally agree with you that it is stupid to defend to protect the lead with an attack minded team”

    I’ll go further and say with an attack minded-formation designed for the attributes of the players further up front, rather than down back.

    I still have faith in Vuci, as well, and I wonder how tired/hurt he really was/is. I think if he gets a week off he finishes a couple of those.

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  • Erick |  November 5th, 2007 at 4:38 pm

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    also we have to recognize that empoli has lucky in the two goals,and a red card that the refferi do not show to a empoli’s player. but chris… it was a bat 30 last minutes for roma, but they are a great team, and some players are became to key like cicinho, guly and juan, and also brighi who wasn’t bad at all in the match. the Doni issue is taht he was especting the cross and with such a bad luck that became a goal. it was hard to look a vuci to miss so much, and so easy goals… it could be a 7 - 0 but not… just a bad day for roma
    excuse my english…

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  • chris |  November 5th, 2007 at 6:08 pm

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    Erick, I do think they’ll get better, but a lot of this stuff is a pattern, including Doni. It gets much more difficult to write it off when it’s recurring.

    And btw, your english has improved a lot. Good job, my friend.

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  • evaldo |  November 5th, 2007 at 6:28 pm

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    yeah, i just get so frustrated by how we either have our foot on the gas (which is awesome) or we are slamming on the brakes. i havent seen much of an in between

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  • evaldo |  November 5th, 2007 at 6:28 pm

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    i mean foot on the gas flooring it!

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  • Vlad |  November 5th, 2007 at 8:39 pm

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    The best defense is a good offense.

    When your defense is being scored on more than a drunk Paris Hilton, you better score some fucking goals.

    That loss really ruined my day. Roma has that effect on me. I was just depressed. It’s like you know it’s going to happen. And Vucinic…I don’t understand. I thought he was supposed to be our finisher, our cynical goal-netter. Let Perrotta find space and fuck it up. At Lecce he was either 4 times better or got approximately 43 chances on goal per game.

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  • Lorenzo |  November 5th, 2007 at 9:37 pm

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    Spot on Chris. Did you copy/paste from my rant? Just kidding. Hey, can we start some kind of Vitorino Antunes sighting pool? We can all take guesses on which week/month/year he sees his 1st minute in a giallorosso shirt.

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  • elmi |  November 5th, 2007 at 10:33 pm

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    a good offense is a good defense, true.. but if the opponent can contain your offense and counter attack… thats when u need good defense. if we can hold the ball in opponets area like barca do, then the first statement would be true… but still they lose and they drew too… so i’d prefer a good defense that is a good defense… i agree 100% with chris that much of the blame is spalletti’s. he should know when to close shop. vuci 1 bad game out of 3 is nothing much to shout about by my standard..

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  • Elisa |  November 5th, 2007 at 10:39 pm

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    Chris,

    My sentiments exactly on rooting for the evil one to score for a draw vs Inter. Ewww pure evil!

    I give up on the Roma defense. They need to continue to score. Score more than the opponent. Yea that’s the ticket!

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  • Gollum |  November 6th, 2007 at 12:29 am

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    I like the pool idea… Could expand it to other things too (like mancini’s first 90 minutes or epso’s first sub). Of course, having said that, I wouldn’t be the one doing the work, so I won’t push the idea too hard lol

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  • Kevo |  November 6th, 2007 at 12:36 am

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    I would attribute the result to complacency, I think Vucinic was just mucking around with those shots, 1. He rounded the defender and chipped wide, 2. He was one on one and pushed the ball wide. On both occasions if he stuck with easy touches or round the keeper, a player of his calibre would have done it 99/100 times in practice. I think he just didn’t think Empoli would resurrect themselves and quite blatantly mucked around. Same with little David, his dragbacks and “come try me” attitude drives me nuts!

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  • Avala |  November 6th, 2007 at 12:46 am

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    Forza Roma!!!!
    Da sempre , per sempre.

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  • Dolita |  November 6th, 2007 at 5:21 am

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    Wow, is Doni really 1.94m? He looks much much shorter compared to Toldo, who is not that much taller.

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  • Traian |  November 6th, 2007 at 7:18 am

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    Yes, he is…
    Plus he’s 28 so we can’t say it’s inexperience. It’s just who he is. Like I said before he’s making unbelievable saves (just like any other great, great goalie), but also he makes mistakes just like any other great, great goalie does not…At least not this often.
    Just like Chris said:…the recurrance of events is what is killing us!

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  • Gabriel |  November 6th, 2007 at 7:27 am

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    totti is out for the sporting clash.

    how is it possible that he is still hurt?

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  • Traian |  November 6th, 2007 at 7:37 am

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    Interesting article for the ones who can read Italian. I could not find it in English. Capello and Mazzone criticize Roma’s narcisism.
    http://it.eurosport.yahoo.com/071105/12/ryu7.html

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  • Traian |  November 6th, 2007 at 7:38 am

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    Google translation:
    A real rain of criticism that has been demolished today on Rome. From Capello to Mazzone, via Gigi Cagni, the jury is unanimous: Rome is a team too sprecona and”narcisa”. After the series of draws (against Juve, Fiorentina, Napoli and Empoli), the defeat at home against Inter and snatched victory in a hard derby against Lazio, the giallorossi are found to be the team among those at the top chart-to have suffered the most goals ever: 16 goals in just 11 games. In the morning, the microphones’ Radio Anch’io Sport, the former technician at Real Madrid, Fabio Capello, while acknowledging that”the Roma is playing very well’’serious””believes that the defense suffered all these goals,”and added Capello - I can not understand why, as a defensive level are very well made, as quality and physical perfection. ” During the attack, according to the technical friulano, the giallorossi”trying to get in the door with embroidery rather than look to the substance and put the ball into the net. The Rome like too. It is a natural narcissism but we want substance, not many networks may experience like them, this is a serious thing for the real antagonist of Inter”concludes Capello. All’ex madridista addition criticism of technical dell’Empoli, Gigi Cagni that, again by microphones’ Radio Anch’io Sport ‘, reflects the words of Capello:”yesterday against my team Roma played better and he had many occasions. But said Cagni - giallorossi have spent a lot both in Milan and in the derby and, in nervous, were less strong than we do. The problem of Rome added the coach dell’Empoli - is that sometimes you like too, his players wrong many times because they want to make it very beautiful. ” Finally, to give depth to the company by Luciano Spalletti, is that Carlo Mazzone, the microphones of RadioRadioTv, said:”The Rome joke and play for me is the feeling of being immature. When you play well, it is a spectacle. Sometimes, though, have unexplained mental blank. It seems they want to show how good they are, if yesterday they had made some foul plus, in Empoli yesterday and today would have won the ranking would be different”. The Rome, according to the technical dean of Italian soccer,”gives too much space to leziosita and appearances. ” I see a team more concrete. The Rome can center the target this year, but commits too many distractions. ” Mazzone contends giving advice to Spalletti:”raise a little tone in the dressing room and responsabilizzi the elderly. “

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  • Gabriella |  November 6th, 2007 at 7:48 am

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    Dont you just love online translations…lol

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  • Razvan |  November 6th, 2007 at 9:34 am

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    so true… mazzone is so right
    in my opinion something must be done, but the biggest mistake right now is to still think at Empoli. That match is history anyway, move on, shit happens

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  • chris |  November 6th, 2007 at 9:37 am

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    ”raise a little tone in the dressing room”

    I’ve hoped for this for awhile, but I’m not sure that’s his style.

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  • Traian |  November 6th, 2007 at 9:48 am

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    Mazzone also said “make the veterans more responsible”. Who do you guys think he’s referring to other than Perrotta and Pizarro? They are my top two disappointments of this early season…and God, I admire Perrotta a lot!

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  • Dolita |  November 6th, 2007 at 10:07 am

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    Honestly, I like what Capello gave to scudetto-winning Roma: a winning mentality.
    He gave Real Madrid the same mentality twice, and they won twice too.

    Don’t get me wrong, I still hate him for being a traitor and thief and all that, but a coin always has two sides.

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  • Avala |  November 6th, 2007 at 11:33 am

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    Hey, while we are at it, how about getting Cassano, Emerson,
    Zebina and …….

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  • Gabriella |  November 6th, 2007 at 1:36 pm

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    well let’s have some psychotherapy or motivational training. Germany had it as part of their preparation for the WC and Milan are getting some psychological consulting as well.

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  • chris |  November 6th, 2007 at 7:26 pm

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    FlackAttack, if you see this, you somehow managed to post a comment on a picture which hasn’t been posted yet. How you managed that I have no idea. But here’s the link for streaming.

    http://www.myp2p.eu/index.htm

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