Derby del Sole Renewed: Go Crazy, Season Ticket Holders

By: chris | October 18th, 2007

roma21.jpgEverybody’s Watching Derby del Sole…Well, A Few People

More developments in the Roma-Napoli away fan ban: Everyone but season ticket holders have been banned, which is exactly how you want to renew a classic rivalry after so many years of dormancy. As I’ve said before: if it’s going to curb violence, I’m all for it, and that is that. Moving on.

Roma - Napoli: Welcome Back

After the six month layoff that was the international break, it’s back to calcio business with the boys in yellow & red, and awaiting them is a nice stiff introduction from the new boys. First of all, let me get this out of the way. Early in the season - when I predicted the Serie A final table - I threw out this little gem:


Surprises of the year will be Udinese growing up, Lazio struggling (bitches) and Napoli sucking a lot worse than people think.

Sincere apologies to Joe at the Napoli Offside and Napoli fans across the globe, because, well, Napoli hasn’t really been sucking. In fact, they’ve been alright, with 10 points on a 3-3-1 record. So, as you know, I’m an idiot. (Although the first two are looking pretty good right now, so who knows what the future holds.) Now that that’s done, onto the game.

The game may start off with a gift to the visitors, as our Francesco has a touch of “muscle fatigue” (let’s hope it’s not the dreaded “fatigued right groin” just with a more vague description, which we presume happens when your clubhouse is full of this) and might need a spot in the stands before the Sporting, Milan and Lazio mini-gauntlet. Regardless, Roma will throw a very good or great striker at Napoli, whether Totti or Mirko Vucinic plays - at this point, with Totti practicing, we can assume it’s His Francesconess.

Whoever plays around that striker will be ready and rested for full 90 of non-stop running, passing, overlapping and clusterfucking. Hopefully a few of those will wind up in the back of the net and we’ll have some thumb-sucking to look forward to. Some goal celebrations, too. The biggest aspect of this game is obviously the fresh legs after what must have been a wonderful two weeks, ending with some being wheelchaired out of the locker room at Old Trafford because their legs simply wouldn’t work anymore. Napoli is in the same boat, but they would much rather see a tired Roma than a fresh Roma.

Squad

Roma: Antunes, Barusso, Bertagnoli, Brighi, Cassetti, Curci, Cicinho, De Rossi, Esposito, Ferrari, Giuly, Juan, Mancini, Marangon, Mexes, Panucci, Perrotta, Pit, Pizarro, Taddei, Tonetto, Totti, Vucinic.

Napoli:
Iezzo, Gianello, Contini, Cupi, Garics, Grava, Rullo, Domizzi, Cannavaro, Savini, Blasi, Dalla Bona, Capparella, Bogliacino, Hamsik, Gargano, Montervino, Calaio’, De Zerbi, Lavezzi, Sosa, Zalayeta.

Injuries

King Alberto is still nursing his groin…or, uh, hurt. Two wings have been clipped (awful, I know, but I couldn’t stop myself) in Taddei and Mauro Esposito, who are both listed as “doubtful” (but as we all know, “doubtful” is the new “almost definitely playing”). And Marco Andreolli is somewhere, doing something, but all while being hurt. Though he’s been speaking to the media as of late, which is good, because now we know he’s at least still hanging around the locker room and possibly on this team.

Probable XIs

Roma:

Doni;
Panucci, Mexes, Juan, Tonetto;
De Rossi, Pizarro;
Lulu Gulu, Perrotta, Mancini;
Totti.

I’d actually like to see Gianluca Curci get the nod in this game, but I doubt that’ll be the case. I suspect we’ll see Lulu Gulu get the start and Rodrigo may get some late substitute minutes if he is capable - or Mirko, as he just cannot stop scoring goals for his country (that’s a big old “Hey Spal, two striker system! Two striker system!”). Outside of that, it should be pretty standard.

Napoli:


Iezzo;
Cupi, Cannavaro, Domizzi;
Grava, Dalla Bona, Bogliacino, Hamsik, Savini;
Lavezzi, Zalayeta.

Not only am I going to thieve Joe’s formation, I’m going to let him explain it to you: “Reja lives and dies with a 3-5-2…which is really more of a 5-3-2 as the wingers Reja usually employs (Savini and Grava) can’t push up worth a damn. If you replace Grava and Savini with Garics and Rullo, Napoli could actually be a threat down the flanks. However, Reja really loves his battlehorses.”

* - Joe’s own Napoli preview here.

Key Matchups


Tired Legs v Supersub Roberto Sosa:
This one is fairly self-explanatory: Sosa has started 0 games, has been subbed in during 4 games, played a whopping 78 minutes, yet still scored a team leading 3 goals. That’s an average of nearly 4 goals per 90 minutes for those scoring at home (well, more like 3.5). Luckily, the international break (and Raymond Domenech) gave some of those Roman defensive legs a breather, because they’ll need them for the full 90 if he comes on late in the game as 2007-08’s Julio Cruz (that is if he doesn’t start).

Napoli v “Muscle Fatigue”:
Francesco at 75% is better than nearly everyone else on the planet at 110% - Napoli will find that out on Saturday. What Napoli will hope for is that Totti isn’t ready to give a full 90 (he probably can) and that they can keep him in check until he needs to be subbed off. They can’t, but it won’t stop them from trying.

Roman CBs & DMs v Ezequiel Lavezzi & Marek Hamsik:
Here’s the deal, if you don’t know who these two diaper dandies are, you will soon. Lavezzi is compared to that other Argentine guy who played for Napoli in the 80’s and the simple fact that Hamsik is even at Napoli is quite shocking (he’s G14 lottery material). Here’s the other thing: both can be one man shows, and are capable of being exceptionally dangerous all by their lonesomes (and together, this is some nice play by all and evidence enough). The two silver linings are Lavezzi hasn’t exactly been in top form and Hamsik has played a bajillion games in the last month (that’s an exact number), hopefully making him quite tired. Of course, either having a breakout game bumps the difficulty on this game up a few notches. If the boys can lock down the middle, namely DDR, the game should should run much more smoothly.

Napoli v Napoli:
I think it’s fair to say on paper Roma is the better side, and even Napoli fans will admit such. Which means that Napoli either must get some stellar individual performances or play exceptionally well as a cohesive unit. The latter? Doesn’t look good heading into the game. Sosa and Maurizio Domizzi recreated Hagler - Hearns in practice last week, which, while surely entertaining, isn’t always a good thing for team unity. Lavezzi got in trouble, for ummm, getting downright indignant about a traffic accident that was actually his fault? Yeah, that:


The Argentine star was stuck in traffic in the early hours of Saturday morning in one of Napoli’s most fashionable districts. Just after midnight the 22-year-old lost concentration and went into the back of a car carrying two passengers.

The two occupants then got out of their vehicle to try and resolve things and asked Lavezzi for compensation for the damages. The ex-San Lorenzo man then lost his head and reportedly starting furiously waving his hands around repeatedly.

Lavezzi, who had consumed some alcohol during the night, was then joined at the scene by his girlfriend, who it seems has just as short a temper. She took off a belt from her trousers and then whipped a nearby person around the head.

I’ve dated a lot of lemons in my day (I seem to attract the completely sane on the outside, Virginia Woolf on the inside - it’s a gift), but Lavezzi’s senorita takes the cake. Nothing turns a guy on like a broad willing to whip off her belt and start to hand out some whoop ass. Sexy.

Anyway, those types of distractions aren’t going to help any when going to Rome for a game against a side who was hitting on top Euro cylinders, then got tired, but now is ready and rested.

* - Can I just throw this in here, would somebody please, for the love of God, fire Theo Epstein. Pleeeeeeeease. If you don’t know what I’m talking about, it’s not worth it. (And if you do know what I’m talking about, will you also kill Julio Lugo? Thanks.)

Game

I really don’t know what to expect, I really don’t. I will say a large part has to do with the fact that I haven’t seen Napoli play yet this year more than about 10 minutes. We all know what Roma is going to bring to the table tactically, no matter who is on the pitch. Napoli appears to have good and bad sides: the 5-0 win over a good Udinese side and 2-0 victory over a still-finding-their-feet Sampdoria side, while still losing 2-0 to probably the least skilled team in Serie A, Cagliari, and drawing with Empoli, while also drawing with Livorno in the first leg of the Coppa Italia (Livorno’s baaaaaaaad). So I have no idea what Napoli will bring to the table with their grinders, especially after all the recent turmoil.

What we do know is this: Roma’s on rested legs, and that will be the biggest factor entering this game. After 47 games in a week, seemingly, the two weeks off for all but a few choice internationals were well deserved and very welcome. For a team which relies on quick hitting runs and reflexes, their muscles could be near optimal for this game, making defending hell on earth for Napoli. A wing pairing of Mancini and Lulu Gulu would probably be ideal to throw Napoli off kilter early in the game and keep them back pedaling, along with Simone Perrotta’s back and forth runs through Napoli’s clogged midfield.

Whatever happens, expect Roma’s start to resemble the beginning of the Palermo game, firing on all cylinders, getting up and down the pitch like rabid animals and probably slotting in an early goal. In the end I think things will settle down to a relatively normal pace and become a game of pushing against one another. I’ll predict a comfortable 2-0 victory for Roma, with lotsa shots on goals and lotsa poor finishing (big stretch, I know).

Predictions

Score: 2-0 Giallorossi
Goals: Perrotta (20), Totti (51)
MOTM: The Azzurri’s latest captain, Daniele De Rossi (It’s almost like cheating, but he’s a logical choice about half the time)

I honestly wanted to pick David Pizarro but I really think Hamsik is going to give him fits during the game.

When: 1800 CET, Noon US EST
Where: Stadio Olimpico, La Citta Eterna
Forecast: 12-15°C and windy (as the season progresses into winter I figured this will be a nice little addition - that and I’ve had to transition to checking the weather everyday and I figured why the hell not go one more click)

Streaming: Here.
US TV: RAI International live and Fox Soccer at 8p on tape delay, so if you’re waiting for that broadcast, avoid this page like the plague.



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  • Slim |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:04 am

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    I’m sorry but this is not the defense of a scudetto contender…I dont know if its curci to blame or the whole defense but there’s a real problem regarding defense.

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  • chris |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:05 am

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    dean, I wondered the same exact thing in regards to Mancini being taken off. It should have been Giuly.

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  • Ezio |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:06 am

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    Doni might be a heart attack waiting to happen, but Curci looked a lot like terminal cancer and aids together…

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  • Xelius |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:08 am

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    Pizzaro is a piece of shit anyone that dares defend this “football player” and says they know anything about soccer let alone say they are a romanista can suck both my balls while you watch this game again. Curci the next coming of Buffon? Please I rather Guily in goal. Tonetto I rather old man Sensi on the field then him played like he belonged in serie c3. Ferrari…seriously the rumours of Lucio better be true because hes about as good a defender as pizarro. Honestly the whole defense sucked bar Mexes.

    My Ratings

    Curci 1 - Because I Like his hair.
    Cicinho 5 - Played like the chick that says stop just as your about to orgasm.
    Ferrari 3 - Learn to Pass FFS and stop trying to hold the ball and play like a midfielder your not Kaka just seriously take 100 euro a week and warm the pine.
    Mexes 10 - Easily MoM if it wasnt for him Napoli 3952352 - 4 Roma
    Tonetto 2 - If it wasnt for the fact that he can play brilliantly some days I would call for his head but today was shameful…like serie C shameful.
    Mancini 6 - Ran after the ball actually tried just abit out of form.
    De Rossi 8 - Played well played hard was basically the entire defense along with Mexes
    Giuly 6.5 - Felt like wilhelmsson mark 2 this game.
    Perotta - Perrotta 1 - Forcefield around goal 235 pretty much non-existant bar that goal.
    Totti - Couldnt really do much being surrounded by the Napoli defensive clusterfuck.

    Overall anger decreased while writing this post but its 2am and i really cant be bothered changing it overall extremely pissed if we want to be scudetto contenders we cant draw and/or conceed 4 goals to a team like napoli end of story.

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  • rickard |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:13 am

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    Curci 1? As if Buffon would have been able to save any of those goals… no chance.

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  • rickard |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:15 am

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    And Perrotta was not non-existant! The amount of defensive runs and the space he creates with offensive runs is huge.

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  • Traian |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:17 am

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    4-4? Too bad the fans could not see this! Poor result for us…we gave up the lead three times in one game! It’s ridiculous…We need to be more pragmatic. How was Ferrari? Totti will get another Golden Boot if Roma scores 3-4 times each game. Do we want this? I don’t know…Not if we lose 4-5 or draw 3-3. Really…

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  • Xelius |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:18 am

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    Okay since i have calmed down maybe abit harsh on curci and perotta but the rest i 100% standby

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  • Gollum |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:27 am

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    Tonetto, Perotta, Guily, and Vucinic, were all awful. I would almost give MOTM to Casetti, even though he was only on a little while (too bad he’s not a LB, Cici was playing much better than Tonetto). I can forgive Tonetto because he’s played well so far this season, but Perotta really needs to step it up. Creating space and making runs isn’t paramount when you can’t actually DO anything with the ball. Vucinic… as much as I want him to succeed, I’m starting to admit to myself that he’s just not right for this team. He makes poor decisions and often it looks like he just can’t control the ball. TGIP is clearly stuck in this lone-striker mindset, so if Vuci can’t adapt lets ship him out and pick up someone who can.

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  • Gollum |  October 20th, 2007 at 11:35 am

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    Change formations? Maybe. But has anyone considered that Vuci hasn’t shown enough merit to justify changing formations? In my book he certainly hasn’t.

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  • Vlad |  October 20th, 2007 at 12:24 pm

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    Xelius, as lovely as those allusions to your balls and sexual escapades were, chill out. Pizarro is an erratic player, made a defensive mistake today (although the whole play was a little confused…) but he starts some great plays, like a pass from Roma’s own box that fell on Mancini’s foot- I mean this ball was perfect- but the potentially very dangerous play was stopped for a nonexistent offsides. He also had one or two very dangerous crosses and a very nice goal. Lay off him when there’s players that played much worse. Perrotta was one of the few bright spots of today’s game so I don’t understand why people are criticizing him. He had some beautiful runs, dribbled a few people, helped the attack, and scored a goal. What more do you want against a team that was playing with 7 people in defense at all times? Giuly played like crap, Tonetto played like crap, Totti (though he had a hand in two goals) was not incisive enough, and Vucinic played really bad. I was truly disappointed. But the biggest problem of this team is that it’s so goddamn easy to score against. Think about it, we always allow goals in the last 10 minutes, we give up leads, we lose concentration…if we do not change attitude, I don’t see how Roma can be regarded as a great team.

    Also, Spalletti needs to change that fucking formation. I like it a lot, usually, but we’re too goddamn predictable, and it’s too much of a liability. Simply put, when we’re not on our game, it doesn’t work. It allows too much space for counter-attacks, and relies heavily on midfielders to participate directly in the attack. For once, just give us fans a (sorry for this) Inter-style cynical win, were we’re not fucking sambaing our way past the goal-line, but unspectacularly heading in a cross, tapping in a ball that comes loose because of a defensive mistake, whatever.

    Anything short of a Roma win, especially when Inter is trying to break free from the rest of the Serie A, ruins my day, and I’m sure many of you feel the same way. It’s about time we see some changes.

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  • chris |  October 20th, 2007 at 12:33 pm

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    “Also, Spalletti needs to change that fucking formation. I like it a lot, usually, but we’re too goddamn predictable, and it’s too much of a liability. Simply put, when we’re not on our game, it doesn’t work. It allows too much space for counter-attacks, and relies heavily on midfielders to participate directly in the attack. For once, just give us fans a (sorry for this) Inter-style cynical win, were we’re not fucking sambaing our way past the goal-line, but unspectacularly heading in a cross, tapping in a ball that comes loose because of a defensive mistake, whatever.”

    Bingo.

    I’ve been quietly questioning Spalletti for a few weeks now on many aspects. It’s getting to the point where I question nearly every sub, many lineups and quite a few of his comments. I can’t recall one sub not required by injury that has changed a game yet this year. Giuly once or twice had a positive impact, bout it.

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  • Julian |  October 20th, 2007 at 12:46 pm

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    I cant understand how you dont change tonetto when hes playing like this. On top of that you take out cicinho. Im sorry but Vucinic isnt doing shit for the team. Roma is a top club where players need to perform. They cant wait for ever for vucinic to start scoring.

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  • john |  October 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pm

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    wow. how did roma put us through that roller coster. come on we cant preserve a one goal lead for anything. its horrible. you cant expect to win a tittle if u cant win games by one. drawing against teams like napoli are the game that lose a tittle. pull it together roma.

    im ready to get rid of perrottas position n play with a more normal formation.

    vucinic(may need an upgrade, let him play in his right position before we say so. hes a forward play him as one)
    totti
    Mancini De Rossi Aqualani Giuly
    Tonnetto Juan Mexas Cici
    Doni

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  • Tarek |  October 20th, 2007 at 1:21 pm

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    Even if Vucinic is played as a forward, he’s always offside. Watching him try to beat the offside trap is painful.

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  • Marco420 |  October 20th, 2007 at 1:37 pm

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    The only game i can’t watch this season and it has to be a 4-4 draw?!?!

    i’m in for the send the TGIB to sub school with Marcelo Lippi fund

    anybody find any highlights on the web yet?

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  • Julian |  October 20th, 2007 at 1:55 pm

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    Its not vucinic didnt get any chances, he has no idea how to position himself.

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  • Vlad |  October 20th, 2007 at 2:15 pm

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    That’s because he’s out of place in Spalletti’s current system. Today he did play bad, but I just can’t judge him till I see him start a few consecutive games in his natural position.

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  • Justin |  October 20th, 2007 at 3:43 pm

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    dammit.. i missed this game totally..
    always thinking i’d watch roma - napoli on sunday..
    so.. i thought.. let’s see some livescore stuff.. i see a whooooping 4-4.. thinking.. what the hellll?

    1st goal.. this fellow from argentina.. he’s damn good.. he really is..

    but reading all those comments now.. how curci sucked soo pretty good.. does not make me happy at all..

    but.. overal.. roma did get the lead for 3 times.. and as always.. conceded 3 times..

    anyway.. this game reminds me of that ah.. palermo game? 4-4 as wel?

    but.. even this draw.. i really want to see the game.. tooo bad..

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  • Ezio |  October 20th, 2007 at 4:14 pm

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    Today was the Roma game in Serie A with most total goals of the last decade, tied with Chievo-Roma 4-4 in 2006.

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  • Avala |  October 20th, 2007 at 5:02 pm

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    Justin, Palermo Roma ended at 3 3 during the 05/06 season. I think it was 0 3 at one point so that today is nowhere near the let down.

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    Reader’s poll

    La pagella dei lettori per:
    Roma-Napoli del 20/10/2007

    Curci - 3.55

    Cicinho - 5.25

    Mexes - 5.48

    Ferrari - 5.13

    Tonetto - 4.98

    De Rossi - 6.45

    Pizarro - 5.75

    Giuly - 4.74

    Perrotta - 5.59

    Mancini - 4.84

    Totti - 6.11

    Cassetti - 6.32

    Vucinic - 4.41

    Spalletti - 4.77

    Tagliavento - 5.30

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  • josh(i giallorossi) |  October 20th, 2007 at 7:22 pm

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    an entertaining yet unfortunate occurance of events…all we need is for everything to gel……defense and striker

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  • Xelius |  October 20th, 2007 at 7:35 pm

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    After 7 or so hours to sleep it off I wake up and still feel the bitter taste in my mouth…or it may have been a rat that died in there who knows.

    To respond to Vlad on the Pizzarro issue yeah he had a few good crosses but that was like 5% of his game for the rest of it he was making heapz of really amateur mistakes because he failed to control the ball, had no idea how to defend and has nothing but the long ball and is slow as a turtle. To put it simply its like dating a fat chick as big as a whale and saying dude did u see how hot her face is.

    Onto our game play besides our very much non-existant defense I found myself really frustrated during the game for the fact that every time we went on the counter attack there was no “hey they are playing 11 men behind the ball lets run this with speed before their clusterfuck can return and cause some chaos” it was more like lets play some cutesy passes and let our friends catch up so we can do some more cutesy passes. I think in way its explained by the fact that Pizzaro does change our game play alot and thats not his fault (there i gave him some reprieve). We look to him to be more creative and and feed golden long balls all day to everywhere and everyone which requires him to slow the pace of the game down. I think this is in direct contravention of the whole purpose and key of the 4-5-1 which is Box-to-box fast tempo hard running soccer don’t let the opposition have time to think and its something I have personally noticed always happens when pizzaro comes on.

    I all think this is a TGIP issue I agree with everyone when we say he needs to learn to use his substitutes correctly and change it up abit and not continue with his incessant love child of 4-5-1.

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  • Xelius |  October 20th, 2007 at 7:39 pm

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    Argh no Edit Button “his incessant love child of 4-5-1 ALL the time even though it should be our main formation it shouldnt be our only one”.

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  • Nolan |  October 20th, 2007 at 7:48 pm

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    i remember our first game this year. Palermo 0-2 Roma, what a beautiful game we played. What i saw today i couldn’t watch was very painful. what went wrong with our defense. In my opinnion the worst players on the field for roma where Tonnetto sometime plays good thought, as well as Pizarro, Ferrari, Curci, and what Vucinic did was minimal and didn’t impact the game. We need no less than wins against Sporting, Milan, Lazio, and no room for error. Inter is runing away and if we don’t want a repeat of last year we can’t afford to lose games like this one because a tie agains Napoli is a lose for AS Roma.

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