Why Roberto Donadoni Needs To Be Fired

By: chris | September 10th, 2007

1356488640_1545a7cb86_m.jpg(Warning: I’m getting up on a soapbox and ranting for a minute in something that should probably be released in multiple volumes, but damnit, it needs to be said)

* – I know this is Roma, but even I forget about the WC site and I write over there. So here you are. I’m sure there are plenty more arguments but this was too long as is.

Alright, I’ve been saying this ever since Roberto Donadoni was hired last summer roughly 24 hours after Marcelo Lippi stepped down (well, at least to myself before I had a medium to voice by highly infrequent opinions) – Donadoni needs to be fired. Yesterday. This weekend’s result, for all intents and purposes, was fine. France has a very good team and some of their players were more in form than Serie A’s finest (minus Zambro and Canna – two of La Liga’s finest), so a draw really isn’t to bitch and moan about. However, the journey to said draw is something to get up in arms about – not to mention a few of the previous showings and the decision making that led to those losses or “moral losses” (I’m looking at you, Faroe Islands 2-1 “win”).

Let’s start with the squad choices for the two games against France and Ukraine. Nothing really out of the ordinary when it comes to the selections, although there were a few glaring omissions. I know Pasquale Foggia has been out of his mind for Cagliari in the first two weeks of the campaign, but Alessandro Rosina has been out of his mind for the last year plus. Surely nobody expects Foggia to play, so why not stick Rosinaldo on the bench if this is just a learning experience? The inclusion of Foggia is a minor gripe – if one at all – but the absence of Rosinaldo is a big big gripe and one that’s probably due an explanation. It certainly has nothing to do with tactics, because Donadoni doesn’t have any. Or at least any continuous systems or lineups. Actually, it looks like most of his lineups are picked out of his hat, but that’s a subject for further down the page.

Alright, back to selections. The goalkeeper position and defense are hard to argue with, because the majority have already earned their place on the squad, and it doesn’t look like anyone will push for a starting spot in the next few months. The inclusion of a highly versatile and in-form Christian Panucci was a smart move, though, just to give The Don Doni a smidgen of credit. So, 6 forwards and 8 midfielders, nothing too out of the ordinary there. But with the actual selections, one would think the Azzurri were headed for either the 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 favored by TDD as of late, because most of the forwards are either second strikers or lateral forwards. Not to mention his inclusion of just one midfielder that is merely adequate on the flanks. So what does TDD do against France? He plays 3 deep-lying central mids and Mauro Camoranesi on the right. Brilliant, eh?

The choices up top have been thrown to the wolves, but it was really the lesser of many many evils. I think the realization is starting to come (if it hasn’t already) how much Luca Toni really means to this team, and how much he forces opposing defenses to work around him. His loss is nobody’s fault, although Donadoni thought otherwise and decided to throw Bayern Munich under the bus for the one thing that wasn’t actually his fault. There’s the argument that Vincenzo Iaquinta should have been there from the beginning, but that’s up for debate. The abrupt cessation of the careers of Antonio Cassano and Alberto Gilardino certainly hasn’t helped, but the forward position in the boot is relatively thin these days (I’ve never been a Miccoli fan, but feel free to bitch about that one as well).

I hate Pippo. I hate his guts. The guy has absolutely zero skills to speak of, but just happens to be the luckiest son of a bitch in the history of global sports (and you start to wonder how much of that is Pirlo, Seedorf, Kaka, etc etc etc). He’s useless if he isn’t getting perfect service in the box and is the antithesis of a team player. When he gets the ball, he shoots, and his shots are typically terrible. But due to the laws of percentages, he scores goals. Should he still be picked? No. He sucks. Does Donadoni realize this? No. Did Lippi? After that bullshit goal against the Czechs, absolutely. Send him back to Milan where he still is a reluctant first choice despite his heroics in Athens.

Del Piero is another subject entirely. Out of respect I’ll just say this: it isn’t 2002 anymore. It’s time to move on. I know he wants to play for the Azzurri until he’s 47 or whatever, but it’s not in the best interest of the team anymore. His best attribute is as a late game substitute as an introduction of vigor, energy and passion when the team’s legs are tired and they need a little Alex pick-me-up (see: Dortmund). Lippi knew this. Hell, even Capello knew this when he was at Juve. Other than that, he shouldn’t be starting. Although I’m not willing to make the case Cristiano Lucarelli or Antonio Di Natale should have been either. Like I said, not the greatest of options.

But wait, what about the man largely responsible for Donadoni still having a job? Fabio Quagliarella? Those two ridiculous goals from outside of most mortals range against Lithuania were the only saving grace for a lackluster game which, if lost or drawn, probably would have sent TDD to the employment guillotine. You know, the one following the 2-1 “win” against the Faroe Islands after which Gigi Buffon & Friends were saying it was a lack of motivation and ferocity in the locker room. Which, um, is pretty much numero uno on the job responsibilities list of an international coach. In a nation of footballing wealth and talent like Italy, the lineup should pretty much write itself (notice I said should) – and motivation is a large factor when many of the boys are tired from their grueling 3 and 4 trophy campaigns with Europe’s elite. Of course any time I hear the word “motivation” from anyone with ties to the squad in Berlin my mind will automatically translate that to “where the hell is Lippi when we need him?”

Are we to think Fabio Quagliarella and his one man shows couldn’t have assisted in a system lacking any offensive creativity from anyone other than Andrea Pirlo? Hell, how about you at least TAKE HIM OUT OF THE STANDS AND PUT HIM ON THE BENCH? Christ, you have the man to thank for whatever ounce of job security you currently have remaining, and if you’re going to field a team whose primary goal is a nil-nil draw, then why the hell not bring in a guy whose nose for goal from 45 yards in gives him the capability to make chicken salad out of chicken shit at any given moment. You know, at least give somebody a prayer in hell of putting one in the back of the net at home (yeah, nothing like playing for the draw at home with the reigning world champs).

Or how about Alberto Aquilani, who has been doing just that over the first two weeks of the Serie A season: making chicken salad out of chicken shit (much love to whichever Kansas City Chiefs quarterback got waived on “Hard Knocks” just so that I could wedge that into my repertoire for the next 10-50 years). The goals against Palermo and Siena were nothing short of spectacular, and neither were something you’d bet the house on being placed into the back of the net. Not to mention being MOTM for Roma’s first three games and one of the best – if not The Best – midfielders in Serie A over the start of the season. Oh, and he can attack a little bit too, rather than having three deep-lying central mids on the field at the same time doing a lot of attacking nothingness.

Of course then there were the tactical changes. Aside from one it was more about the substitutions that he didn’t make, rather than the ones he did. In a team that was having difficulty getting forward laterally and attacking with width, he decided to take off his only winger/side midfielder for Simone Perrotta, a box-to-box central midfielder. Not only that, but he failed to bring in anyone to expose the left flank, which was being defended by Lassana “Verbal” Diarrhea and Franck Ribery – you know, world class defensive skills right there. So why not expose that side with, um, anyone? Del Piero and Pippo needed to come off sooner, probably in the locker room pre-game. In fact, I’m sure there were endless tactical changes that could have been made to give us at least the most miniscule of illusions that Donadoni was trying to win the game.

By his selections it’s clear he was playing it safe, rather than going for the win with the more talented team at home in a game in which they desperately needed the 3 points. It’s also clear he doesn’t trust youngsters against squads like France, even if they are clearly the best option for the squad. That, any way you look at it, is a recipe for disaster. Best players play. Period.

What is he playing anyway? A 4-2-3-1, a 4-3-3, a defensive formation, an attacking one, a 4-4-2? What the hell is his goal here? He picks players suited to one formation, then uses a completely different one. Are we really about to see a new version of catanaccio with 4 deep-lying central mids in front of the back 4 with two largely incapable strikers up top? Because it looks like we’re headed that way.

One large question I’ve had since his hiring is: why was he hired so readily? Almost as if it was predetermined his eventual appointment was manifest destiny. It’s as though he had been the Azzurri’s Chosen One since his career began. His announcement came just 24 hours after Marcelo Lippi stepped down, with a competitive game still a little ways off (it’s not like anyone would’ve woken up from their victorious hangover and slammed the FIGC for slapping someone with the “interim” tag for a couple games). It is very possible Lippi informed them of his decision well before his public announcement – he did say his decision was made to step down during the group stages, regardless of what happened in the knockout rounds. So it is possible TDD’s appointment had already been made before the rest of the world knew the Azzurri would be Lippi-less.

Which begs the question: What the hell did he do to deserve the appointment in the first place? He had a decent run at Livorno. Bout it. Actually, that Livorno run ended with a violent breakup due to disagreements between TDD and the management. Other than that, there isn’t much to speak of. He hasn’t brought in a revolutionary new tactical system which leaves opposing coaches baffled and opposing teams clamoring for the Azzurri of old. Nor is he a wizard with the word, a magical motivator in the mold of Lippi. Basically, I’m still lost as to what the hell he brings to the table. Of course I would be remiss if I failed to mention there is some great speculation his appointment came due to friendships within the FIGC (Demetrio Albertini, I’m looking at you), which is obviously how anyone should get the job captaining one of the most important national teams in the world. If that’s the case it is quite obvious why he’s been given such a long leash despite his record of horrid decision-making: political favoritism (In Italia? How dare I say…)

The list of potential replacements being bantered about is relatively short, basically consisting of two names: The aforementioned Marcello Lippi and Fabio Capello. Despite being relatively different coaches, here’s what they have in common: they win trophies. Lots of them. We don’t need to rewind the memory banks too far to remember what Lippi brought to the feast, and his Gepetto-like workings of the Juventus strings were no exception. 5 Serie A trophies in less than a decade is pretty spectacular no matter how you look at it, especially when That Milan Team was still tearing apart the whole of Europe with little regard for women and children at the beginning of his run. Not to mention his primary gift is the one thing the Azzurri have been lacking as of late: motivation.

There aren’t too many sweet nothings to whisper about Don Fabio (and as a Roma fan, I could go on all day long with choice four-letter words – but thanks for 00-01), but the guy wins. And then he wins some more. Then a little more. 7 Scudetti (2 tainted, but as far as I know they was Moggi, not him – did I really just defend him? Damn, I’m slipping), 2 La Liga title in 2 seasons and a Champions League title with “The Invincibles.” Yes, that Milan team was pretty decent all by their lonesome, but Don Fabio’s successes later in his career proved he was much more than a figurehead. The ultimate tactician, albeit of uber-boring football, there is little question as to what magic he could weave with a team as talented and as defensively sound (usually) as this current Azzurri team. And it may even signal the departure of Del Piero, if he really feels that strongly against Capello (I think that makes Don Fabio the firm fan favorite).

So, what do both Lippi and Capello also have in common besides the victories? They’re both spending the next year in the announcers booth. Would either come? No clue. I suspect Capello may wish to take his chance with the national team at some point before his career ends (despite his dark locks and youthful appearance, the man is 61 and 2 years older than Lippi – yeah, you read that correctly). There are also a few others, namely Carlo Ancelotti, who has made it clear he wants to coach the Azzurri before he retires, and Luciano Spalletti down the line, who could easily turn the Azzurri into Europe’s answer to the Selecao. Suffice it to say, there isn’t a dearth of high qulaity replacements.

In summation, it becomes more clear with each passing game and decision made that Roberto Donadoni has no clue how to do the job he was contracted out to do. This is the same squad that won the goddamn World Cup 14 months ago and conceded two goals: one an own goal and another a penalty. None from open play (so for anyone saying they weren’t “deserving” champions, go bitch to a brick wall). This team should be walking through its qualifying group as though it’s an insult they weren’t just handed a semi-final spot to begin with. The players don’t respect TDD, he has no trophy cabinet to look back upon and say, “Look, I did it then and I can do it again”, he has the tactical genius of a Down Syndrome baboon and it looks like he has the motivational abilities of a quadriplegic mime. Donadoni has yet to give even an ounce of justification as to why he was hired in the first place. The man has been given too much rope, if something isn’t done soon he’ll end up with enough to hang the entire team with. At this point, I’m really questioning whether or not the Azzurri will qualify for the European Championships. A year ago, largely the same team was the best in the world and hoisting the Champions trophy that was rightfully theirs. How the mighty have fallen.



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  • chris |  September 10th, 2007 at 3:45 pm

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    Vialli’s problem has been wages. He was higher on the list at Juve than Ranieri but they weren’t offering enough bank.

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  • Muddia Dome |  September 10th, 2007 at 4:05 pm

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    Not to get to offtrack, the Don needs to go faster than Lloyd Carr, but is the Ukraine game being televised here? The France game was on Gol, but this when doesn’t seem to be on the schedule.

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  • Francesco |  September 10th, 2007 at 5:14 pm

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    Ukraine-Italy will be on RAI International

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  • VIC |  September 10th, 2007 at 5:35 pm

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    I just wanna say that I really hate Donadoni..he doesn’t have any credit in order to be the Azurri coach. Italy plays without passion, without style…nothing..they just play horrible thanks to Donadoni..and I am sure that he is the main reason that made TOTTI and Nesta quit the Azurri…
    Italy needs and DESERVES a better coach…Donadoni sucks.

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  • Frank |  September 10th, 2007 at 6:09 pm

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    if donna really wants to play with four in the midfield, at least try to find a true outside mid/winger to play opposite of camoranesi. anyone think that putting taddei’s italian citizenship to use would be a good idea? i mean, if amauri was going to play for italy, why not taddei? he’d give balance to the attack, can cross and score from the wing. because, you know, anything is better than starting with three holding mids and no true winger.

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  • Nuno |  September 10th, 2007 at 6:14 pm

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    The THE OFFSIDE ASROMA BLOG, has been linked to BANCADA SUL, a portuguese blog dedicated to Sporting Clube de Portugal.

    Best regards, and good seasson except when you will play against Sporting ;) .

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  • chris |  September 10th, 2007 at 6:43 pm

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    Bad news Frank, even though I love the idea…

    http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/sep10l.html

    Unfortunately, I think we may be able to say the same for Amauri. Although as powerful a nation as Italia is, I think resorting to Italians by a) birth, b) blood and calling it their “home” (no, I’m not a fan of Camo saying he still feels Argie and the decision was purely “football related”) should be more than sufficient.

    Nuno, thanks for the linkback, and I hope you tear through ManYoo and finish second in the group behind the boys in red & yellow. (and very cool looking site, even though I don’t have a damn clue what any of it says)

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  • josh(i giallorossi) |  September 10th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

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    italy should go back to kappa…sorry puma

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  • Juan Carlos Sol |  September 10th, 2007 at 9:44 pm

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    Well… who could replace Don if Italy where to fire him?

    Capello and Lippi both first choice coaches would not take the job for several reasons. Capello has signed an year deal with Rai or something and Lippi won’t come back to coach Italy again.

    Ancelloti will not leave Milan this year

    Spalletti and Prandelli have too little experience and will not leave their clubs

    Sachi??? he could come to coach Italy??

    there are no other decent coaches out there from Italy that are willing to leave their club to coach Italy… Maybe Rossi from Lazio???

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  • Bashar Beiruti |  September 11th, 2007 at 5:35 am

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    What’s Sacchi up to these days? And for that matter.. Cesare Maldini too? Dino Zoff? Hell.. I’ll take Trap at this point.. haha.. Delio Rossi is a good coach and if he were to leave Lazio it would be great from every angle.

    Is Donadoni really to blame for Totti’s and Nesta’s retirements? I would actually blame Lega Calcio, Matarese, Platini, Riveira, and the whole Italian media for that one.

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  • chris |  September 11th, 2007 at 7:26 am

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    john, I missed you comment and I have to agree with you, as much as we all love Ivan, I think his spot may dwindle. DDR is better than him right now, and there are just so many hugely talented kids coming through with attacking mindsets to play in midfield, like King Alberto, Rosinaldo, Montolivo, and Foggia, that if TDD wants to pretend like he wants to score goals, he’s going to have to play them along with the best two CMs, and that’s Pirlo and DDR. And I still think this team should stick with the 4-3-3 and then toss out the 4-2-3-1 when they can afford to.

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  • Ethan |  September 11th, 2007 at 8:42 am

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    Yes, Josh, the uniforms are what is keeping them down.

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  • Gianfranco |  September 11th, 2007 at 9:05 am

  • Romanista SA |  September 11th, 2007 at 9:14 am

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    Chris

    Do you honestly think De Rossi is better than the General?

    That’s big.

    I have to admit, if I wanted to nullify Kaka, Ronaldinho, Cristiano Ronaldo etc I’d rather have Ivan in the holding midfield position.

    Plus I think Pirlo has to play for the national team because he is brilliant and it’s natural to have Ivan the Terrible alongside him.

    I think De Rossi is more suited to play in Pirlo’s role for the national team, considering we have the General (Ivan the Terrible) there as well.

    However, I reckon in 2 years time DDR will be alongside Aquilani in the national team midfield.

    I was telling my friend earlier today.

    I think Del Piero, Inzaghi, Camoranesi, Materazzi and Zambrotta should all retire from the national team and give the youngsters a run.

    I’d say Cannavaro as well but if him and Matrix go we have Barzagli and no one else in CB.

    I think they should go because they have won the World Cup and are all in their thirties.

    I’d much rather see Rosinaldo, Montolivo et al in wearing the national team jersey.

    See what happened to Greece after they won the Euro.

    They got pumped 4-0 by England I think.

    The players couldn’t care less.

    They were Gods already.

    I reckon that mentality is evident to an extent with our boys now.

    Time for the hero’s of 06 to step aside.

    Besides, the kids can’t do any worse than this lot!

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  • chris |  September 11th, 2007 at 9:22 am

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    Better? Absolutely. Everybody knows what GG brings to the table, and we all love him for it, but DDR is one of the most gifted, talented and effective CMs in the world – so I don’t think it’s much of an argument. He provides more in the area that the team is sorely lacking right now, which is my thought. I love Ivan, and his partnership with Pirlo is nice, but they’ve done pretty well in the past with DDR & Simone flanking Andrea, remember?

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  • James |  September 11th, 2007 at 9:25 am

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    Contracts are broken or bought out John all the time. I am confident that if Capello wanted to rescind his RAI contract a deal would be made, it is not written in blood and he does not have to give up his first born; Lippi on the other hand could rejoin the fold anytime he wanted with a phone call – I would not rule that out or use absolutes in his decision to go back to La Nazionale. So the excuse that we don’t have any choice is the same weak argument made by our milan blogster counterpart on why the Azzurri is struggling (Totti Dependent??) and gli Azzurri do not have supposed “choices” on selection. Bullshit.

    Chris you are spot on once again. Start the website post haste. Nicely articulated btw, I especially enjoyed the comment: “he (TDD) has the tactical genius of a Down Syndrome baboon and it looks like he has the motivational abilities of a quadriplegic mime.” BRILLIANT!
    Enough said.

    Ciao

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  • Brian |  September 11th, 2007 at 9:35 am

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    When you bring up Maradon, Van Basten, etc. in that light, then it becomes incredibly difficult to argue against that. :P The World Cup surely is the greatest stage of football. It is where legends are made! I just do not find the actual minute-to-minute flow of the game and international tactics and play as interesting as a club football match.

    Another problem for me though, honestly, is lack of any personal interest or stake in these events. I was born in Sevilla, Spain but I have never rooted for my national team, which is not an uncommon thing in the country of my birth. As I am sure many of you are aware, Spain is a country where minority cultures are strong and vocal. Unification into one national voice has never occurred like in Italy (though I know that is not completely true there either). I should add that I do not support independence for Catalan, Basques, Andalusia, etc… but I have always wanted a UK-style tolerance for national expression on a sporting level. Scotland, Wales, N. Ireland are allowed the honor of representing their identities. Even if none of their sides are among the world elite, they are formidable and challenging foes. The same would be true of Catalan, Basque, and Andalusian sides. And of course Spain’s NT itself would be much weaker with an exodus of much talent. But then at least people in my country of birth might actually *CARE* about international football too. It is sad that a Catalan-Basque game draws a far larger audience than a Spain EURO qualifier.

    But yeah… I have lived in America now for most of my life and have never cared much for the Spanish national team. But barring someone to root for, I still question the entertainment of the international game. It just seems to lack something. WC 98 was the last one to enchant me. 2002 and 2006 I could not appreciate. Maybe I am just odd.

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  • Romanista SA |  September 11th, 2007 at 9:54 am

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    I think ‘better’ is a bad choice of words. I obviously love De Rossi, being a Roma fan and all. But in my opinion, I think Gatusso is better at locking down a midfield. He is nowhere near as technically gifted as DDR, but in my opinion he is the best lockdown midfielder in the world. He brings almost zip to attack but he can take a player out the game completely and crunch opposing players unrelentingly.

    Against some strong teams when you want to keep it tight, I’d favour him over De Rossi.

    Against Ukraine tomorrow, I’d favour De Rossi because our defence shouldn’t need too much of what the General brings and we really have to take the game to Ukraine.

    They are different types of players and I think the opposition dictates who should play.

    Add to the fact that Pirlo is Gattusso’s club partner and they play together all the time, I don’t think the automatic choice is De Rossi!

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  • Bashar Beiruti |  September 11th, 2007 at 10:18 am

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    Everytime Gattuso plays I have one hand on my heart hoping he doesn’t get sent off.. In the past 3 games I’ve seen (Sevilla, Fiorentina, France) he was booked early. Never got sent off but it’s only a matter of time before he gets that 2nd booking.

    Another option is to try Pirlo or DDR as an attacking midfielder and leave Gatusso and the other in the holding roles. Play a Roma system with Rosina and Camo on either side of Toni/Miccoli/Iaquinta.

    I wouldn’t want Zambro or Materazzi to retire because that’ll bring in Ferrari and Zaccardo.. Not that either one is bad (o.g. excluded), but common.. The team needs that kind of experience for Matrix and Zambro.

    And no.. Italy is not dependant on Totti.. They never were. They won the World Cup without him (pretty much..) and they don’t need him. They tried to make him a scape goat for Italy’s situation (thats where all the pressure was) so he just retired permanently and took himself out of the equation.

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  • chris |  September 11th, 2007 at 10:22 am

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    Bashar, 100% agree about that whole sending off of GG thing. I feel the exact same way. It’s going to happen eventually, and I do think he is given a longer leash by refs, so all it’s going to take one guy who is all business to change a game.

    As far as who is better, if you were to build a midfield around one player, who would it be?

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  • Daniele |  September 11th, 2007 at 11:15 am

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    And no.. Italy is not dependant on Totti.. They never were. They won the World Cup without him (pretty much..) and they don’t need him. They tried to make him a scape goat for Italy’s situation (thats where all the pressure was) so he just retired permanently and took himself out of the equation.

    Ok I have to disagree with this one completely.
    People often forget Totti even played in the 06 WC. His assists, creativity, the cool penalty he took in stoppages, and his lovely work in the midfield with de rossi and pirlo has been completely forgotten.
    Thats pretty fahcking upsetting considering the man was on 1 leg, and trained his damnest to get back into the WC and lippi’s lineup card…
    There’s a reason he played over anyone else there. He is the creative genius of his time, and one of the most creative and visionary players in the WORLD.

    So i have agree 100% with your last part Bashar.

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  • Daniele |  September 11th, 2007 at 11:16 am

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    btw
    go back and watch all the games minus the final…

    and you will all remember..

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  • Bashar Beiruti |  September 11th, 2007 at 11:28 am

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    I know he was useful for Italy.. Most assists in the World Cup which is huge. I usually go around fighting anyone who says Totti was useless this World Cup.. So my point here is kind of contradictory.. But again, he wasn’t the reason they won the World Cup. After all he was pretty darn tired and bad in the semifinal and final and they still won.

    I was also pointing out to Totti’s Azzurri career as a whole where Italy had many great performances without him. He hasn’t impressed for Italy like he did in Euro 2000. I think Perrotta could have filled his role in the WC well (if Totti didn’t make it).

    I also think that Italy would be much better with him, but he’s not essential. It’s not like he’s going to bring his Roma form to Italy. There are bigger issues out there that not even a perfect Totti performance can fix..

    Now.. If they played Totti and Toni up front together (not Totti in midfield behind Toni).. Oh man.. mouth watering.. Then I’d say Totti NEEDS to come back just so I can see opposing teams crushed.. but right now Italy can do well without him if they fix their real problems.

    Buffon; Grosso, Canna, Matrix, Zambro; Quags, Pirlo, DDR, Camo; Toni, Totti

    Ooooh!!! Just switch Totti with Miccoli and it’s a lineup he SHOULD be using now.

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  • Bashar Beiruti |  September 11th, 2007 at 12:46 pm

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    Btw.. Does anyone think that Italy is in any worse position than England, Portugal, or Spain right now?

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  • Traian |  September 11th, 2007 at 1:02 pm

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    After the WC win in 1982, Italy failed miserably to qualify for Euro 1984 in a group with Sweden, Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Cyprus.
    http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/history/season=1984/round=205/group=58.html
    I think it’s going to happen again.

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